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bluebry wrote: We've had 5 games this season 2 wins and 3 defeats
The two wins were deserved
The loss to Mansfield we were conned by the opposition and had a very weak Ref.
The Swindon game ( I admit I wasn't there) but I was told if we had another 10 minutes we would have possibly got a point.
Only tonight we got what we probably deserved.................nowt, although 2nd half we looked OK.
No need for panic stations just yet, but stating the obvious, wins MUST come sooner rather than later.
Pressley MUST be given time IN MY OPINION.
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Mullen103 wrote: If the aim is just survival then I’d stay with him for a bit yet.
If we,re serious we want promotion, there aren’t there are talking bollocks, then if we lose Saturday get rid.
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crunchblue wrote:
bluebry wrote: We've had 5 games this season 2 wins and 3 defeats
The two wins were deserved
The loss to Mansfield we were conned by the opposition and had a very weak Ref.
The Swindon game ( I admit I wasn't there) but I was told if we had another 10 minutes we would have possibly got a point.
Only tonight we got what we probably deserved.................nowt, although 2nd half we looked OK.
No need for panic stations just yet, but stating the obvious, wins MUST come sooner rather than later.
Pressley MUST be given time IN MY OPINION.
Na we 100% deserved to lose at Swindon. Maybe we would have got an equaliser if we had an extra 10 minutes, maybe we would have if we’d had an extra 10 players or an extra 10 million quid to spend. All maybes, but we definitely deserved to lose and were well beaten.
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munchymagic wrote: Bloody hell Bry - try climbing out of Pressley's backside for an hour and you might see some sense.
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bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote: Bloody hell Bry - try climbing out of Pressley's backside for an hour and you might see some sense.
Actually READ my assessment you clown.
If you can read, then you can actually tell,that I'm not exactly sticking up for him, I just think that he should be given at least a bit of time!!! Something that quite a few others agree with.
I suppose that is a bit too difficult for you to understand is it not?
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bluebry wrote:
crunchblue wrote:
bluebry wrote: We've had 5 games this season 2 wins and 3 defeats
The two wins were deserved
The loss to Mansfield we were conned by the opposition and had a very weak Ref.
The Swindon game ( I admit I wasn't there) but I was told if we had another 10 minutes we would have possibly got a point.
Only tonight we got what we probably deserved.................nowt, although 2nd half we looked OK.
No need for panic stations just yet, but stating the obvious, wins MUST come sooner rather than later.
Pressley MUST be given time IN MY OPINION.
Na we 100% deserved to lose at Swindon. Maybe we would have got an equaliser if we had an extra 10 minutes, maybe we would have if we’d had an extra 10 players or an extra 10 million quid to spend. All maybes, but we definitely deserved to lose and were well beaten.
I have absolutely no problem with your opinion, as I said I wasn't there, however Swindon have a hell of a lot more clout in the transfer market than we have, so maybe a 2-3 defeat isn't as bad as some people are trying to make out. Time will tell of course and he needs to turn it around quickly, but no need for panic stations just yet.
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Markovitch wrote: There isn't a goal in that team. On Saturday and last night we never looked like scoring.
Why did we have a different commentary team last night? I thought they were very good
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lummy8 wrote: ...we should be confident of beating them.
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Wukkie wrote: Some folk seem very shortsighted to me. People venting their anger at the Manager (and he deserves some) but they are looking at the wrong place. They should be pointing fingers at the BOD who get away scot free mostly.
This endless cycle will never change until they are gone but everytime it's the manager who gets all the flak.
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Markovitch wrote: I think Elvis actually recruited quite well. The squad looks more balanced now than in recent years, the average age has come down, and we have some pace. I just don't think he can manage a team. Maybe we should make Holdsworth manager and Elvis director of football?
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munchymagic wrote: You could also argue that Kavanagh inherited a terrible squad from Abbott and then Curle inherited a worse squad from Kavanagh.
Curle then gone and Sheridan has the nucleus of a decent side for a change and makes additions and we fire up the league.
Sheridan gone and Pressley comes in and we slide down the league, he was stupidly given a new contract and builds a squad worse than Kavanagh did, the inevitable will happen and Pressley will be given the boot and the new manager will come in and find himself in a Curle style situation as in 'what the [censored] am I supposed to do with this lot and still stay up'.
Sorry but 'the manager needs time' does not work in football when you have lost your last three league games and your record at the club for signing players and league form is bad.
One thing that Pressley certainly has done since he arrived is to 'turn the club around' - he certainly did that but it is a shame that he was looking downwards.
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munchymagic wrote: You could also argue that Kavanagh inherited a terrible squad from Abbott and then Curle inherited a worse squad from Kavanagh.
Curle then gone and Sheridan has the nucleus of a decent side for a change and makes additions and we fire up the league.
Sheridan gone and Pressley comes in and we slide down the league, he was stupidly given a new contract and builds a squad worse than Kavanagh did, the inevitable will happen and Pressley will be given the boot and the new manager will come in and find himself in a Curle style situation as in 'what the [censored] am I supposed to do with this lot and still stay up'.
Sorry but 'the manager needs time' does not work in football when you have lost your last three league games and your record at the club for signing players and league form is bad.
One thing that Pressley certainly has done since he arrived is to 'turn the club around' - he certainly did that but it is a shame that he was looking downwards.
Let me get this right, you're basing this opinion over the whole five games that the new squad has had?
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Croydonblue wrote: I thought 1 win in 5 games made this seasons win rate 20%?
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munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote: Bloody hell Bry - try climbing out of Pressley's backside for an hour and you might see some sense.
Actually READ my assessment you clown.
If you can read, then you can actually tell,that I'm not exactly sticking up for him, I just think that he should be given at least a bit of time!!! Something that quite a few others agree with.
I suppose that is a bit too difficult for you to understand is it not?
Your glass might be half full Bry but after three league defeats on the trot mine is empty.
You could say that Kavanagh or Gregg needed more time as well.
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bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote: Bloody hell Bry - try climbing out of Pressley's backside for an hour and you might see some sense.
Actually READ my assessment you clown.
If you can read, then you can actually tell,that I'm not exactly sticking up for him, I just think that he should be given at least a bit of time!!! Something that quite a few others agree with.
I suppose that is a bit too difficult for you to understand is it not?
Your glass might be half full Bry but after three league defeats on the trot mine is empty.
You could say that Kavanagh or Gregg needed more time as well.
'My glass is half full' errrrr, yes it is, just over one week ago we beat a strong Barnsley side 3-0, infact we didn't just beat them we murdered them, it was like watching a good Premier side slaughter a lower division side on the break, we were ruthless, efficient and bloody, bloody good. and don't anybody give me that crap about them making 5 changes or whatever it was, they are Championship players in a Championship squad who should be expected to wipe away a 4th tier side in one foul swoop, especially at home, and regardless who is in their starting line up, but it didn't happen did it? because we were so bloody good.
Last night (especially the first half was poor) I'll give you that, but to change the manager after 5 competitive games, with a squad he has only just got together, and on a shoestring???????
Problem is, this is what some football fans expect these days, instant success, instant glory, one or two defeats (without looking at the bigger picture) then he has to go......................?? give me a break.
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munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote: Bloody hell Bry - try climbing out of Pressley's backside for an hour and you might see some sense.
Actually READ my assessment you clown.
If you can read, then you can actually tell,that I'm not exactly sticking up for him, I just think that he should be given at least a bit of time!!! Something that quite a few others agree with.
I suppose that is a bit too difficult for you to understand is it not?
Your glass might be half full Bry but after three league defeats on the trot mine is empty.
You could say that Kavanagh or Gregg needed more time as well.
'My glass is half full' errrrr, yes it is, just over one week ago we beat a strong Barnsley side 3-0, infact we didn't just beat them we murdered them, it was like watching a good Premier side slaughter a lower division side on the break, we were ruthless, efficient and bloody, bloody good. and don't anybody give me that crap about them making 5 changes or whatever it was, they are Championship players in a Championship squad who should be expected to wipe away a 4th tier side in one foul swoop, especially at home, and regardless who is in their starting line up, but it didn't happen did it? because we were so bloody good.
Last night (especially the first half was poor) I'll give you that, but to change the manager after 5 competitive games, with a squad he has only just got together, and on a shoestring???????
Problem is, this is what some football fans expect these days, instant success, instant glory, one or two defeats (without looking at the bigger picture) then he has to go......................?? give me a break.
We slaughtered a reserve side in what was virtually a bounce game that they were not seemingly bothered about, although I will take a win every time.
Our bread and butter is the league but I will gladly take a cup win every time to to add to the kitty.
Your argument then goes downhill - last season Pressley re-built the squad in January and look how that panned out, then he got the chance again in the summer and look at how this is working out, maybe not bad players after all but he isn't getting anything out of them.
You may like Pressley as bloke Bry fair enough but I tend to rate managers on results first and foremost.
Next time you chat to him please ask him to get our players to get some shots in on goal more often, if he cannot manage this then get a better defence.
I would take 1-0 against Salford right now although Pressley would herald a draw as a victory.
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bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote: Bloody hell Bry - try climbing out of Pressley's backside for an hour and you might see some sense.
Actually READ my assessment you clown.
If you can read, then you can actually tell,that I'm not exactly sticking up for him, I just think that he should be given at least a bit of time!!! Something that quite a few others agree with.
I suppose that is a bit too difficult for you to understand is it not?
Your glass might be half full Bry but after three league defeats on the trot mine is empty.
You could say that Kavanagh or Gregg needed more time as well.
'My glass is half full' errrrr, yes it is, just over one week ago we beat a strong Barnsley side 3-0, infact we didn't just beat them we murdered them, it was like watching a good Premier side slaughter a lower division side on the break, we were ruthless, efficient and bloody, bloody good. and don't anybody give me that crap about them making 5 changes or whatever it was, they are Championship players in a Championship squad who should be expected to wipe away a 4th tier side in one foul swoop, especially at home, and regardless who is in their starting line up, but it didn't happen did it? because we were so bloody good.
Last night (especially the first half was poor) I'll give you that, but to change the manager after 5 competitive games, with a squad he has only just got together, and on a shoestring???????
Problem is, this is what some football fans expect these days, instant success, instant glory, one or two defeats (without looking at the bigger picture) then he has to go......................?? give me a break.
We slaughtered a reserve side in what was virtually a bounce game that they were not seemingly bothered about, although I will take a win every time.
Our bread and butter is the league but I will gladly take a cup win every time to to add to the kitty.
Your argument then goes downhill - last season Pressley re-built the squad in January and look how that panned out, then he got the chance again in the summer and look at how this is working out, maybe not bad players after all but he isn't getting anything out of them.
You may like Pressley as bloke Bry fair enough but I tend to rate managers on results first and foremost.
Next time you chat to him please ask him to get our players to get some shots in on goal more often, if he cannot manage this then get a better defence.
I would take 1-0 against Salford right now although Pressley would herald a draw as a victory.
Your argument went down hill after the first letter you typed. LOL
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munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote: Bloody hell Bry - try climbing out of Pressley's backside for an hour and you might see some sense.
Actually READ my assessment you clown.
If you can read, then you can actually tell,that I'm not exactly sticking up for him, I just think that he should be given at least a bit of time!!! Something that quite a few others agree with.
I suppose that is a bit too difficult for you to understand is it not?
Your glass might be half full Bry but after three league defeats on the trot mine is empty.
You could say that Kavanagh or Gregg needed more time as well.
'My glass is half full' errrrr, yes it is, just over one week ago we beat a strong Barnsley side 3-0, infact we didn't just beat them we murdered them, it was like watching a good Premier side slaughter a lower division side on the break, we were ruthless, efficient and bloody, bloody good. and don't anybody give me that crap about them making 5 changes or whatever it was, they are Championship players in a Championship squad who should be expected to wipe away a 4th tier side in one foul swoop, especially at home, and regardless who is in their starting line up, but it didn't happen did it? because we were so bloody good.
Last night (especially the first half was poor) I'll give you that, but to change the manager after 5 competitive games, with a squad he has only just got together, and on a shoestring???????
Problem is, this is what some football fans expect these days, instant success, instant glory, one or two defeats (without looking at the bigger picture) then he has to go......................?? give me a break.
We slaughtered a reserve side in what was virtually a bounce game that they were not seemingly bothered about, although I will take a win every time.
Our bread and butter is the league but I will gladly take a cup win every time to to add to the kitty.
Your argument then goes downhill - last season Pressley re-built the squad in January and look how that panned out, then he got the chance again in the summer and look at how this is working out, maybe not bad players after all but he isn't getting anything out of them.
You may like Pressley as bloke Bry fair enough but I tend to rate managers on results first and foremost.
Next time you chat to him please ask him to get our players to get some shots in on goal more often, if he cannot manage this then get a better defence.
I would take 1-0 against Salford right now although Pressley would herald a draw as a victory.
Your argument went down hill after the first letter you typed. LOL
Not my fault that you are disappointed that you didn't get a bite
You asked me the other day how Keith was getting on so I googled him and he won last night apparently - I wish your 'friend' 'friend' 'football manager friend' had achieved the same feat....
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bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote: Bloody hell Bry - try climbing out of Pressley's backside for an hour and you might see some sense.
Actually READ my assessment you clown.
If you can read, then you can actually tell,that I'm not exactly sticking up for him, I just think that he should be given at least a bit of time!!! Something that quite a few others agree with.
I suppose that is a bit too difficult for you to understand is it not?
Your glass might be half full Bry but after three league defeats on the trot mine is empty.
You could say that Kavanagh or Gregg needed more time as well.
'My glass is half full' errrrr, yes it is, just over one week ago we beat a strong Barnsley side 3-0, infact we didn't just beat them we murdered them, it was like watching a good Premier side slaughter a lower division side on the break, we were ruthless, efficient and bloody, bloody good. and don't anybody give me that crap about them making 5 changes or whatever it was, they are Championship players in a Championship squad who should be expected to wipe away a 4th tier side in one foul swoop, especially at home, and regardless who is in their starting line up, but it didn't happen did it? because we were so bloody good.
Last night (especially the first half was poor) I'll give you that, but to change the manager after 5 competitive games, with a squad he has only just got together, and on a shoestring???????
Problem is, this is what some football fans expect these days, instant success, instant glory, one or two defeats (without looking at the bigger picture) then he has to go......................?? give me a break.
We slaughtered a reserve side in what was virtually a bounce game that they were not seemingly bothered about, although I will take a win every time.
Our bread and butter is the league but I will gladly take a cup win every time to to add to the kitty.
Your argument then goes downhill - last season Pressley re-built the squad in January and look how that panned out, then he got the chance again in the summer and look at how this is working out, maybe not bad players after all but he isn't getting anything out of them.
You may like Pressley as bloke Bry fair enough but I tend to rate managers on results first and foremost.
Next time you chat to him please ask him to get our players to get some shots in on goal more often, if he cannot manage this then get a better defence.
I would take 1-0 against Salford right now although Pressley would herald a draw as a victory.
Your argument went down hill after the first letter you typed. LOL
Not my fault that you are disappointed that you didn't get a bite
You asked me the other day how Keith was getting on so I googled him and he won last night apparently - I wish your 'friend' 'friend' 'football manager friend' had achieved the same feat....
This is what I don't understand about you Munchy, you were so far up Curles backside that I'm surprised your not permanently blind, here is a manager that had 3 years at the club, promised us everything but gave us bugger all, a manager that allegedly spent more than we could afford, did bugger all apart from take a reserve Liverpool side to penalty's (a competition that nobody's interested in according to you??)
Pressley has been here not much more than 6 months, had the team decimated by recalls as soon as he took over, had little or no time to rebuild, and 5 games into the new season with his own squad with a win ratio of 40% and you want rid of him.
Oh and that was Cules first win of the season including friendly's, I suppose you want him back?
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munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
bluebry wrote:
munchymagic wrote: Bloody hell Bry - try climbing out of Pressley's backside for an hour and you might see some sense.
Actually READ my assessment you clown.
If you can read, then you can actually tell,that I'm not exactly sticking up for him, I just think that he should be given at least a bit of time!!! Something that quite a few others agree with.
I suppose that is a bit too difficult for you to understand is it not?
Your glass might be half full Bry but after three league defeats on the trot mine is empty.
You could say that Kavanagh or Gregg needed more time as well.
'My glass is half full' errrrr, yes it is, just over one week ago we beat a strong Barnsley side 3-0, infact we didn't just beat them we murdered them, it was like watching a good Premier side slaughter a lower division side on the break, we were ruthless, efficient and bloody, bloody good. and don't anybody give me that crap about them making 5 changes or whatever it was, they are Championship players in a Championship squad who should be expected to wipe away a 4th tier side in one foul swoop, especially at home, and regardless who is in their starting line up, but it didn't happen did it? because we were so bloody good.
Last night (especially the first half was poor) I'll give you that, but to change the manager after 5 competitive games, with a squad he has only just got together, and on a shoestring???????
Problem is, this is what some football fans expect these days, instant success, instant glory, one or two defeats (without looking at the bigger picture) then he has to go......................?? give me a break.
We slaughtered a reserve side in what was virtually a bounce game that they were not seemingly bothered about, although I will take a win every time.
Our bread and butter is the league but I will gladly take a cup win every time to to add to the kitty.
Your argument then goes downhill - last season Pressley re-built the squad in January and look how that panned out, then he got the chance again in the summer and look at how this is working out, maybe not bad players after all but he isn't getting anything out of them.
You may like Pressley as bloke Bry fair enough but I tend to rate managers on results first and foremost.
Next time you chat to him please ask him to get our players to get some shots in on goal more often, if he cannot manage this then get a better defence.
I would take 1-0 against Salford right now although Pressley would herald a draw as a victory.
Your argument went down hill after the first letter you typed. LOL
Not my fault that you are disappointed that you didn't get a bite
You asked me the other day how Keith was getting on so I googled him and he won last night apparently - I wish your 'friend' 'friend' 'football manager friend' had achieved the same feat....
This is what I don't understand about you Munchy, you were so far up Curles backside that I'm surprised your not permanently blind, here is a manager that had 3 years at the club, promised us everything but gave us bugger all, a manager that allegedly spent more than we could afford, did bugger all apart from take a reserve Liverpool side to penalty's (a competition that nobody's interested in according to you??)
Pressley has been here not much more than 6 months, had the team decimated by recalls as soon as he took over, had little or no time to rebuild, and 5 games into the new season with his own squad with a win ratio of 40% and you want rid of him.
Oh and that was Cules first win of the season including friendly's, I suppose you want him back?
You mention Curle more than me Bry
I said the opposite about the cup runs also, Barnsley didn't take it seriously enough not us.
And as for bringing him back, he is already in a job.
Yeah I would take Liverpool, Everton, the playoffs and the likes over getting thrashed three league games running and near the bottom of League Two.
The only 'time' Pressley deserves is garden leave.
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