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Very strong rumours that elite football is to be suspended Imminently - check Twitter.

Dowden has a meeting with the FA on Wednesday.

If you’re a praying type of a person I’d be doing that tonight.
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Should of been cancelled ages ago.

We’ve a supposed NHS crisis, lack of beds but it’s ok to play a sport and with a possibility of injury taking up one of these beds.

Not to mention the other reasons.


Do you genuinely believe there isn't a NHS crisis?
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I think what Mullen is saying is if there was a real crisis we wouldn't be allowing football to be played.

(I think that's the jist though I could be wrong)
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Absolutely not - there’s an NHS crisis every winter as it’s under funded. More so this year due to the crisis and staff absences.

It’s one of the added reasons to the list as to why elite football should be cancelled. If we have a NHS crisis and I. A lockdown due to an NHS crisis but allowing elite sport, which could take up NHS resources at a time of national crisis is deeply irresponsible to me.
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There's a lot of other things that should be curtailed.

Garden centres, takeaways and a few others should be shut if the government were truly serious. Still plenty of traffic knocking about. You're not telling me they are all on essential travel.

I'm not sure if lockdowns are the answer but either do it properly or don't bother. :(
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There's a lot of other things that should be curtailed.

Garden centres, takeaways and a few others should be shut if the government were truly serious. Still plenty of traffic knocking about. You're not telling me they are all on essential travel.

I'm not sure if lockdowns are the answer but either do it properly or don't bother. :(


Agree!

I’m against lockdowns, but if you have to have one lock everything down!
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Just thought the hypocrisy some folk display has been illustrated quite well by Football Focus today.
Mark Lawrenson in the studio saying that he thinks there are more important things than football, lots of people dying and the football should be stopped; at least for a while.
Why don't you stay at home Lawro? Is it really necessary for you to come into the studio? Is football punditry more important than playing football? Ffs.
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Lawrenson is a Grade A Gonk...
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It's a difficult one to be judgemental really.

Lawrenson will be self-employed I would expect, that's the way the BBC work. I am sure Lawrenson has made a pile of money over the years but in these very uncertain times it's very difficult to turn work down and if the Beeb said you have to come into the studio he has a tough choice to make.

I think we can only look after ourselves really. I haven't been to a shop all week, but would have felt perfectly safe if the football had been on at Brunton Park, and hope to be working on Tuesday. It's all a balancing act, few folk can totally shut the door on life.
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Really feel for all these experts. Poor old David Lloyd is having to get up for a 4 am start on Thursday and commentate on the test from his house instead of being in Sri Lanka in person. Tough times indeed.
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Absolutely not - there’s an NHS crisis every winter as it’s under funded. More so this year due to the crisis and staff absences.

It’s one of the added reasons to the list as to why elite football should be cancelled. If we have a NHS crisis and I. A lockdown due to an NHS crisis but allowing elite sport, which could take up NHS resources at a time of national crisis is deeply irresponsible to me.



But it should not be cancelled.
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Absolutely not - there’s an NHS crisis every winter as it’s under funded. More so this year due to the crisis and staff absences.

It’s one of the added reasons to the list as to why elite football should be cancelled. If we have a NHS crisis and I. A lockdown due to an NHS crisis but allowing elite sport, which could take up NHS resources at a time of national crisis is deeply irresponsible to me.

I'm not sure how cancelling elite football is going to help much.
You keep banging on (quite rightly) about the state of peoples mental health through this crisis but surely being able to watch live sport is providing a little bit of normality and can only help their well being.
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Not really hypocrisy unless he was saying football should be called off and then sneaking out back for a full contact game of three and in with Sav and Crookesy

Different activities have different levels of risk
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Absolutely not - there’s an NHS crisis every winter as it’s under funded. More so this year due to the crisis and staff absences.

It’s one of the added reasons to the list as to why elite football should be cancelled. If we have a NHS crisis and I. A lockdown due to an NHS crisis but allowing elite sport, which could take up NHS resources at a time of national crisis is deeply irresponsible to me.



But it should not be cancelled.
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Take Annan Athletic as an example. All players with other jobs travelling in a bus up on a Tuesday night to Aberdeen to play another part time side.

With the best will in the world they will be mixing on and off the pitch and then going on their merry way carrying on with jobs all over the place in the next day or two.

Doesn’t seem a good idea to me. Especially when cases are quite high in Dumfries and Galloway but not so much up north.
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Nothing should be cancelled! but unfortunately most things are.

A trip to a museum, not allowed, may be good for someone’s mental as is watching a football match for others.

When the message is “stay at home”, the NHS is in crisis and the new message “don’t go out or you could kill someone” I just can’t justify football carrying on while everything else is cancelled.

It’s turning into a farce anyway!
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Footballers have families! They aren’t robots for our entertainment.

You need to think of their mental health as well. Even with testing they could be mixing with a steward, ball boy, St. John’s ambulances etc etc pick up the virus and pass it onto their families.

Yes: my personal opinion is the restrictions will do more harm than good, but If we all have to follow the rules than that means everyone.
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Nothing should be cancelled! but unfortunately most things are.

A trip to a museum, not allowed, may be good for someone’s mental as is watching a football match for others.

When the message is “stay at home”, the NHS is in crisis and the new message “don’t go out or you could kill someone” I just can’t justify football carrying on while everything else is cancelled.

It’s turning into a farce anyway!


Why would you have to justify anything?

Are you Matt Hancock?
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Nothing should be cancelled! but unfortunately most things are.

A trip to a museum, not allowed, may be good for someone’s mental as is watching a football match for others.

When the message is “stay at home”, the NHS is in crisis and the new message “don’t go out or you could kill someone” I just can’t justify football carrying on while everything else is cancelled.

It’s turning into a farce anyway!


The message is stay at home, only go out for essential items like food, or to work if you can’t work from home. Can footballers work from home? Can they shite!

Anyway people are more likely to stay at home if there’s plenty of football on telly to watch. Football is a good thing for lockdown and mental health.
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I can’t support then!
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Nothing should be cancelled! but unfortunately most things are.

A trip to a museum, not allowed, may be good for someone’s mental as is watching a football match for others.

When the message is “stay at home”, the NHS is in crisis and the new message “don’t go out or you could kill someone” I just can’t justify football carrying on while everything else is cancelled.

It’s turning into a farce anyway!


The message is stay at home, only go out for essential items like food, or to work if you can’t work from home. Can footballers work from home? Can they shite!

Anyway people are more likely to stay at home if there’s plenty of football on telly to watch. Football is a good thing for lockdown and mental health.


Hospitality workers can’t work from home either, therefore footballers should be the same and furloughed.

It’s entertainment after all.
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Hospitality workers are on furlough cos customers aren’t able to use their businesses where they work, so no money coming in

Football can be watched on the tellybox so still has customers

Sausage head
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Maybe the hospitality workers could go in to work and and people could pay to watch them lay tables set up the bar etc.
That is not to decry what they do, just making the point that there is a slight difference.
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I would probably be up for it, to be fair.
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Nothing should be cancelled! but unfortunately most things are.

A trip to a museum, not allowed, may be good for someone’s mental as is watching a football match for others.

When the message is “stay at home”, the NHS is in crisis and the new message “don’t go out or you could kill someone” I just can’t justify football carrying on while everything else is cancelled.

It’s turning into a farce anyway!


The message is stay at home, only go out for essential items like food, or to work if you can’t work from home. Can footballers work from home? Can they shite!

Anyway people are more likely to stay at home if there’s plenty of football on telly to watch. Football is a good thing for lockdown and mental health.


Hospitality workers can’t work from home either, therefore footballers should be the same and furloughed.

It’s entertainment after all.


Are you deliberately being thick or are you really this thick?

Hospitality workers don’t have work to go to without paying public coming in, so if they did go to work they’d be at work with nothing to do. At the moment Football can continue without paying public coming in.

The fact you can’t see the difference between the two is frightening.
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I can remember the same people calling for football to carry on complain about Laffy et al for possibly using up NHS resource for travelling far on their bikes, if they got injured. It’s the same thing with football.

They was a 4 hour delay yesterday for an ambulance, but if the game was played today and someone got a broken leg, would they be happy for a 4 hour ambulance wait?
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Nothing should be cancelled! but unfortunately most things are.

A trip to a museum, not allowed, may be good for someone’s mental as is watching a football match for others.

When the message is “stay at home”, the NHS is in crisis and the new message “don’t go out or you could kill someone” I just can’t justify football carrying on while everything else is cancelled.

It’s turning into a farce anyway!


The message is stay at home, only go out for essential items like food, or to work if you can’t work from home. Can footballers work from home? Can they shite!

Anyway people are more likely to stay at home if there’s plenty of football on telly to watch. Football is a good thing for lockdown and mental health.


Hospitality workers can’t work from home either, therefore footballers should be the same and furloughed.

It’s entertainment after all.


Are you deliberately being thick or are you really this thick?

Hospitality workers don’t have work to go to without paying public coming in, so if they did go to work they’d be at work with nothing to do. At the moment Football can continue without paying public coming in.

The fact you can’t see the difference between the two is frightening.


I think you’ve got your blinkers on - because you like watching football it’s got to continue regardless of anything else.

I was referring to the fact that if you can’t work from home or at a place of work you can be furloughed, nothing to do with them being the same.
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Absolutely not - there’s an NHS crisis every winter as it’s under funded. More so this year due to the crisis and staff absences.

It’s one of the added reasons to the list as to why elite football should be cancelled. If we have a NHS crisis and I. A lockdown due to an NHS crisis but allowing elite sport, which could take up NHS resources at a time of national crisis is deeply irresponsible to me.



You see many footballers in NHS hospitals?
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I want football to continue, I enjoy watching it.
I don’t agree with the restrictions but they are here and we’ve got to follow them for all!

Whether you believe Covid is real or not the NHS is in crisis, especially Carlisle last night. I was in A&E yesterday morning 7am and it was empty but last night 4pm, I had to pick something up, they were queues and queues of ambulances waiting to be treated as A&E was full, no beds due to social distancing and at 58% of usual staff.

Today’s the same, but football can continue causing a possible injury and using vital services. That’s selfish to me.
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Absolutely not - there’s an NHS crisis every winter as it’s under funded. More so this year due to the crisis and staff absences.

It’s one of the added reasons to the list as to why elite football should be cancelled. If we have a NHS crisis and I. A lockdown due to an NHS crisis but allowing elite sport, which could take up NHS resources at a time of national crisis is deeply irresponsible to me.



You see many footballers in NHS hospitals?


Just takes 1 - there’s a lot of football injuries and players tweeting pictures of being in hospital.

Would you be happy waiting 4 hours for an ambulance, while having a heart attack, but see one speeding down Warwick road because a players broke his leg?

That would have been the situation today, if the match was on and someone unfortunately got an injury.
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‘Whether you believe COVID is real or not’.

Jesus Christ. Luckily you are seemingly in a minority of one on here with that particular belief sausage head

‘Had to pick something up’

Are you one of those loons sneaking into hospitals to photograph empty storerooms to use as ‘evidence’?

As for the pandemic of footballers breaking their legs, haven’t heard
Sir Chris give out the daily figures on that one for a while. Must be another great cover up...

I know an old lady who broke her leg when walking down the stairs in her home. Would you also ban going upstairs in your glorious regime?
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reply to Mullens post:

I really think that's a bit tenuous.

A footballer being injured to the point they need hospital treatment on the day doesn't happen very often at all. Maybe a couple of times a season if that.

If you are going down that road you could equally say how many folk who would normally be sitting watching the match on IFollow say sod it and go out for a walk, then slip on the ice and end up in hospital. Would that be football's fault for stopping?

I know for some people there is just that feeling, that it isn't fair, so many people are suffering financially and yet football continues. I get that but guess what, life isn't fair and I am cheered sitting watching final score.
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What are you on about. I’ll answer your questions though!

I’ve Never said Covid wasn’t real, I still think it was man made/man released intentionally/accidentally. There are some that don’t believe it but regardless your take on it, the NHS is in crisis.

No - I had to pick up some medication that got transferred from Newcastle.

We are told to stay at home, “protect the NHS” playing football is not protecting the NHS, it’s taking resource if someone gets injured.
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‘What are you on about’ would be a good auto-reply for whenever you post anything in a COVID thread

Would save the valiant orfc countless hours posting facts to counteract your baseless tripe
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‘What are you on about’ would be a good auto-reply for whenever you post anything in a COVID thread

Would save the valiant orfc countless hours posting facts to counteract your baseless tripe


Yes on lockdowns - I don’t agree with.
On the lack of treatment for anything else.
On the use of masks, which are working well aren’t they, being as much use as a chocolate fireguard.
On dangers of vaccines, to some.
On the further eradication on liberties, to be placed upon us, in the name of the virus.

And unreliable tests.
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So you think it would be a good idea to carry on as normal,
without masks?
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So you think it would be a good idea to carry on as normal,
without masks?


Without another mask debate.

The majority don’t work, people don’t wear them properly and they give a false cense of security.

50k cases a day, might say there’s something in it.
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Masks work if they are three layered and worn properly and not constantly taken on and off by possibly infected hands, single layer are masks are no good. There has been a big drop in Flu and the common cold infections mainly down to the wearing of masks distancing and hand washing.
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Wash hands, keep a safe distance, ensure there is plenty of fresh air AND wear a mask.
Not wear a mask and you will be safe.
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Wash hands, keep a safe distance, ensure there is plenty of fresh air AND wear a mask.
Not wear a mask and you will be safe.


Problem is, as I’ve said countless times, people put a bit of cloth over their faces and think their immortal from everything.
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So you think it would be a good idea to carry on as normal,
without masks?


We didn’t have masks in the first wave and this one with masks is arguably worse already. People don’t socially distance since masks came in and most of the face coverings are useless,
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It's the winter, more people get ill in general so an increase was going to happen. Where was the preparation for this?
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Social distancing has virtually gone out the window since the wear of masks became mandatory.
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Absolutely not - there’s an NHS crisis every winter as it’s under funded. More so this year due to the crisis and staff absences.

It’s one of the added reasons to the list as to why elite football should be cancelled. If we have a NHS crisis and I. A lockdown due to an NHS crisis but allowing elite sport, which could take up NHS resources at a time of national crisis is deeply irresponsible to me.



You see many footballers in NHS hospitals?


Just takes 1 - there’s a lot of football injuries and players tweeting pictures of being in hospital.

Would you be happy waiting 4 hours for an ambulance, while having a heart attack, but see one speeding down Warwick road because a players broke his leg?

That would have been the situation today, if the match was on and someone unfortunately got an injury.


No it wouldnt. There’s a thing called ‘triage’
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Absolutely not - there’s an NHS crisis every winter as it’s under funded. More so this year due to the crisis and staff absences.

It’s one of the added reasons to the list as to why elite football should be cancelled. If we have a NHS crisis and I. A lockdown due to an NHS crisis but allowing elite sport, which could take up NHS resources at a time of national crisis is deeply irresponsible to me.



You see many footballers in NHS hospitals?


Just takes 1 - there’s a lot of football injuries and players tweeting pictures of being in hospital.

Would you be happy waiting 4 hours for an ambulance, while having a heart attack, but see one speeding down Warwick road because a players broke his leg?

That would have been the situation today, if the match was on and someone unfortunately got an injury.


No it wouldnt. There’s a thing called ‘triage’


You try triaging yesterday and today.

You’re right though, they do triage but no good if it’s near or already treating the person.
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I want football to continue


I don’t believe you, Mullen
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I want football to continue


I don’t believe you, Mullen


I do, I don’t believe it should.

Two different things.
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As much as it pains me with CUFC flying high, it is probably time to stop football NOW.

Watching those Chorley players celebrate in such a small claustrophobic space on the news makes you realise just how wrong it is - an insult to everyone who is sacrificing so much.

The police would be knocking on the door in any other environment or workplace away from elite sport.
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Exactly! It’s morally wrong to continue.
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Scottish Lower Leagues on hold for 3 weeks:
References
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