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Now the Coronavirus thread is played out and dead, maybe we can move to the next phase, the vaccine.

It is now headlining the news, and once again will turn into a fairly predictable political bun fight.

After the Pfizer announcement is was nailed on that someone else would come to the market, all predicting ' up to ' 90% effective, depending on which article you read.As no vaccine is 100% effective, we must assume it/they are good enough, or should we ?

The vaccine is a game changer, not only from the control of the virus aspect, but they also give the Governments more control on the who, what, where,when, why and how.

Will maximizing political point scoring be the game or will they just get on with it ?

Listening to Hancock this morning (who talks a load of crap) he used the words ' we hope ' to start selective vaccinating next month, with a roll out in the spring of next year.

Is this the silver bullet we all hope for, and who will refuse to be vaccinated.

If I get the chance, I'll be first in the queue.
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Just taken me dad for his vaccine. Very busy with not just older people but loads of essential workers also getting it. Very good to see.


Whereabouts did you you go?
  1. 14-01-2021 10:50
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Just taken me dad for his vaccine. Very busy with not just older people but loads of essential workers also getting it. Very good to see.


Whereabouts did you you go?


Orchard House at Workington
  1. 14-01-2021 10:56
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I won’t have the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines. I just don’t feel confident that it’s fully safe even for those without a serious allergy.

However the Astra Zeneca one and although it has a reduced efficiency rate, to the other two, it’s an old style vector one, I’ll have it when the time comes.

I’m not overly happy about it but with health passport/ vaccine ID looks the less of two evils.
  1. 14-01-2021 14:41
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The roll out of the vaccine in Carlisle seems slow it's being rolled out quickly in other places but never mentioned in Carlisle unless the local news just isn't bothering to report it.
  1. 17-01-2021 13:27
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I won’t have the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines. I just don’t feel confident that it’s fully safe even for those without a serious allergy.

However the Astra Zeneca one and although it has a reduced efficiency rate, to the other two, it’s an old style vector one, I’ll have it when the time comes.

I’m enot overly happy about it but with health passport/ vaccine ID looks the less of two evils.





If you can still transmit if after vaccination they’ll be unlikely
  1. 17-01-2021 14:17
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I won’t have the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines. I just don’t feel confident that it’s fully safe even for those without a serious allergy.

However the Astra Zeneca one and although it has a reduced efficiency rate, to the other two, it’s an old style vector one, I’ll have it when the time comes.

I’m not overly happy about it but with health passport/ vaccine ID looks the less of two evils.








You don’t get to pick with one you have. Soz
  1. 17-01-2021 15:16
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I want the Oxford one, administered in the late afternoon by a top heavy young nurse if we can get to choose.
  1. 17-01-2021 15:23
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I won’t have the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines. I just don’t feel confident that it’s fully safe even for those without a serious allergy.
however the Astra Zeneca one and although it has a reduced efficiency rate, to the other two, it’s an old style vector one, I’ll have it when the time comes.
I’m not overly happy about it but with health passport/ vaccine ID looks the less of two evils.
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I think Richard your outlook is changing - well done. If you stop admiring whatever Markovic writes that would be another step in the right direction. Of course, from what you are written over the years I understand that you do not enjoy good health and this may be a cause of your negativity - hopefully when this virus thing is behind us you can steps with friends to make things at least a little better and in a better frame of mind.
  1. 17-01-2021 16:01
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It all comes down to life experience. I’ve had mis diagnosis after misdiagnosis. I’ve also witnessed someone getting ill from a vaccine so tend to question.

I’m pro vax, believe it or not, I did get ill after the flu vaccine and won’t have that again but I’ve had all the others.

You can choose which one you have, if you have a medical condition not just because you don’t want a specific one. If you have MS/Lupus or an auto immune disease your advised to take the viral vector one and the GP will arrange when it’s your turn.
  1. 17-01-2021 16:32
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For the record they wont give you the phizer one if you have certain issues . As a number of folk attending to get it have found out recently.
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For the record they wont give you the phizer one if you have certain issues . As a number of folk attending to get it have found out recently.


That’s right.

Inquest for the supposed Covid death was meant to be tomorrow. Postponed for obvious reasons.

What’s happening in Scotland about the care home Covid deaths?
  1. 17-01-2021 18:43
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No idea but as the police are doing it for the crown office i think some will probably be put forward to the fiscal if they think a prosecution is a possibility
  1. 17-01-2021 19:00
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27th is my vaccine date is also 2nd dose on 31st march behind the jam curtain. Happy days.

Never looked so forward to having a prick inside of me ;)
  1. 21-01-2021 21:43
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27th is my vaccine date is also 2nd dose on 31st march behind the jam curtain. Happy days.

Never looked so forward to having a prick inside of me ;)


Since that works Christmas do
  1. 21-01-2021 22:44
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"A second coronavirus vaccine manufacturer has warned of supply issues to the European Union, compounding frustration in the bloc.
AstraZeneca said a production problem meant the number of initial doses available would be lower than expected.
The fresh blow comes after some nations' inoculation programmes were slowed due to a cut in deliveries of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.
The EU Health Commissioner expressed "deep dissatisfaction" at the news.
Officials have not confirmed publicly how big the shortfall will be, but an unnamed EU official told Reuters news agency that deliveries would be reduced to 31m - a cut of 60% - in the first quarter of this year.
The drug firm had been set to deliver about 80 million doses to the 27 nations by March, according to the official who spoke to Reuters.
The AstraZeneca vaccine, developed with Oxford University, has not yet been approved by the EU's drug regulator but is expected to get the green light at the end of this month, paving the way for jabs to be given."
  1. 23-01-2021 13:01
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If the EU has not yet approved it, what is the issue?
  1. 23-01-2021 18:20
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If the EU has not yet approved it, what is the issue?


The EU.
  1. 23-01-2021 18:45
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An 89-year-old who lives down the road from me has several health issues and been in isolation for nearly a year. She had the AstraZeneca vaccine over a week ago when someone came to her house to give her the injection.

I asked her today, on the phone, how she was feeling and did she have any side effects. She said no didn’t have a sore arm, a mark, and never felt tired or anything. She’s just looking forward to seeing her family again.

Everyone is unique Mr Banks, but I know what I’ll choose. Bring it on.
  1. 23-01-2021 18:47
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If you’ve any health conditions the Astra Zeneca one seems the go to.

I don’t trust the Pfizer vaccine and within the MS community there’s a few that’s got quite ill with it so the advice now is don’t have that one and the advice has been communicated to GPs. Again this is something that’s been picked up after the rollout.

Lupus, an autoimmune disease, has question marks about all Covid vaccines causing flare ups but the BMJ say it’s currently inconclusive due to a lack of data.
  1. 23-01-2021 19:13
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sorry point i was making is why would vaccines available be reserved for the eu when they have not approved its application.
  1. 23-01-2021 19:25
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Acknowledged Mr Banks. I wasn’t challenging you about the EU I’m just hoping everyone in Britain has the confidence to go for it.
Or if not I'd be pleased if you isolate.
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Five million vaccinated Britons told to carry on 'as if you have the virus' by Jonathan Van-Tam.

That will be unlikely. A lot of people don’t seem to realise vaccination doesn’t seem to prevent transmission.

It’ll be very interesting to see how many people who have been vaccinated get the virus. :o
  1. 24-01-2021 09:30
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Five million vaccinated Britons told to carry on 'as if you have the virus' by Jonathan Van-Tam.

That will be unlikely. A lot of people don’t seem to realise vaccination doesn’t seem to prevent transmission.

It’ll be very interesting to see how many people who have been vaccinated get the virus. :o


There is one person locally who has, but has sadly died. However they were vaccinated only 5 days before they contracted Covid and was of poor health already.
  1. 24-01-2021 10:28
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The Federalised EU is starting to give Boris the fuel he needs to get out of the noose post full vaccination.

"The European Union has issued an incendiary warning to Pfizer and other drug companies that it must secure its permission before exporting vaccine doses to the UK, amid a spiralling row over supply with British drugmaker AstraZeneca.

The British-Swedish pharmaceutical giant – whose vaccine, developed with the University of Oxford, is already in use in the UK – last week told Brussels that it would be able to produce far fewer jabs than the figure agreed previously agreed with the EU.

Furious European officials have now announced plans to place new controls on the export of vaccines, as anger rises across the continent at the slow pace of immunisation in the EU.
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https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/eu-threatens-to-block-vaccine-exports-to-britain-as-astrazeneca-row-intensifies/26/01/
  1. 26-01-2021 14:58
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Some people post some rubbish on here.
I had my jab today, it was Pfizer so presumably I must be looking forward to losing an arm, a leg or worse in the next few days.
Will keep you posted.
  1. 26-01-2021 17:56
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Some people post some rubbish on here.
I had my jab today, it was Pfizer so presumably I must be looking forward to losing an arm, a leg or worse in the next few days.
Will keep you posted.



If you've had it in you're right arm, and it falls off, and you have a right handed watch, can I have it ? :D
  1. 26-01-2021 18:31
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https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=1&PERPAGE=10&ESORT=&REVERSESORT=&VAX=(COVID19)&VAXTYPES=(COVID-19)&DIED=Yes

All Inconclusive I’d say and agree but worth reporting if there’s any link to be found.
  1. 26-01-2021 19:09
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Doomed, we’re all doomed.
Give it a rest Mullen.


Sorry Silentone, don’t wear a watch. Nice try though :D
  1. 26-01-2021 21:14
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I did say it was inconclusive.

With no tests being done during the trial stage on health conditions or medications there’s no harm in reading up about that.

If you’re 18 or over you can make your own choice to take it - let’s hope it stays like that.
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The crack is, if you don't have the vaccination, your being shipped off to the Falklands. Which has the lowest death rate on the Planet, and is bad for our reputation.
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