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  3. 24-01-2020 15:33
Cobra meeting held to discuss plan of action if it comes to the UK (assuming it hasn't already). This is another consequence of globalisation and mass immigration, people with diseases from all over the world travelling all over the world, what could possibly go wrong?
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He'd do well in Islington with the other champagne socialists
  1. 21-11-2020 19:36
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Kessler your the biggest culprit for goading people if they don't agree with your comments. Two way traffic 'if you can't take it don't dish it out". I await your response NOT


That simply isn't true. I don't agree with Laffy most of the time. He's a capitalist and I'm a socialist, so no surprise we often disagree. But I still treat him with respect, I feel he is wrong about many things but I know he argues his points in good faith and think it does us all good to hear things from another point of view sometimes. Even asked his opinion on a tracker fund I was looking at recently. So you are completely wrong there.


It always amuses me that a socialist keeps asking for opinions on funds and shares.


Why exactly, should we not be allowed to save?
  1. 21-11-2020 20:04
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Covid-19: Strengthened tier system for England after lockdown https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55029401

Yeah thought so, nowt will change, maybe 5 days over Xmas we can see our family but that’ll be it.

Shops/hospitality that rely on Xmas trade buggerdd.


Good news for amazon
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Quick mods, make it hard to post again!
  1. 22-11-2020 00:28
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Capitalism is supposed to be about freedom and choice yes?

But according to this thread socialists shouldn't be allowed to have a different opinion, and High Street and Waltero seem to think we shouldn't be allowed to save money. Doesn't seem very free to me.
  1. 22-11-2020 08:09
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When and where did I say you weren't allowed to save money. FFS Kessler you'd start a barney with yourself if there was no one else around.
  1. 22-11-2020 09:25
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When and where did I say you weren't allowed to save money. FFS Kessler you'd start a barney with yourself if there was no one else around.


Look at what you and High Street posted. Clearly you both think have an issue with socialists daring to save money. Do you find it hilarious when Laffy talks about shares as well? Or is it one rule for capitalists and another for everyone else.
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Kessler you are endless
  1. 22-11-2020 09:35
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Kessler you are endless


Do you have anything to contribute to the actual discussion or are you just goading?
  1. 22-11-2020 09:37
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Now you're a mind reader ? You don't know what I'm thinking (just as well). So you're a socialist, so what. I vote conservative so what. But don't accuse me of saying things I haven't. I don't give a toss how you make a living
  1. 22-11-2020 09:40
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He’s just highlighting how boring you and Kessler are , to be fair your just a bit of a saddo
Kessler is the softest most boring man I’ve ever heard .
  1. 22-11-2020 09:43
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I thought you were Mullen cause you’ve stolen his picture .
Same applies . Your a pratt
  1. 22-11-2020 09:45
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Now you're a mind reader ? You don't know what I'm thinking (just as well). So you're a socialist, so what. I vote conservative so what. But don't accuse me of saying things I haven't.


I'm not, I'm just saying that's what you seem to be thinking based on what you and High Street said. Do you call Laffy a "champagne capitalist" or is that different because he agrees with your politics?
  1. 22-11-2020 09:54
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That's nice Upperbyblue
  1. 22-11-2020 09:51
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Kessler

A while back when you stopped posting, most of probably thought thank goodness as it was getting tedious, now you have returned yet again its all tedious stuff from you, looking for things that arent there...and in the process just keep alienating yourself...I dont think you realise how much annoyance people have with you

It will be a welcome relief for you to stop posting again....that is my opinion
  1. 22-11-2020 09:57
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You are so so so boring though cuz
Nothing else going on today to keep you boring the life out of every Carlisle fan viewing this forum.
It’s as if your gonna come out as and say your just a windup merch .
But I think your for real
Wow
  1. 22-11-2020 09:59
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A while back when you stopped posting, most of probably thought thank goodness as it was getting tedious, now you have returned yet again its all tedious stuff from you, looking for things that arent there


Yesterday you basically admitted that you post things to goad and get a reaction from people. Isn't that tedious? Why don't you genuinely take part in the discussion instead of trying to wind people up?

It’s as if your gonna come out as and say your just a windup merch .
But I think your for real


There's a few on here I think are wind up merchants, not me. My opinions aren't popular but they are genuine. I don't mind listening to different opinions as long as people argue in good faith.
  1. 22-11-2020 10:08
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But you can’t possibly be that sad
Yesterday you repeatedly asked someone “what did you mean by that”

It’s pathetic , you know fine well what he meant but you needed to highlight somebody said something half nasty to you

You and Mullen are on a crusade for justice for fat Barry but nobody really gives a toss

Those that have met him I’m sure will agree he’s a big fat gobshite tramp but you two bang on like he’s some kind of god who’s been wronged
Give it up
But I’m sure you’ll be back with your politically correct POV
  1. 22-11-2020 10:15
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Yesterday you repeatedly asked someone “what did you mean by that”

It’s pathetic , you know fine well what he meant but you needed to highlight somebody said something half nasty to you


I wasn't sure what he meant, it sounded like a threat but I wanted to clarify. What's wrong with asking someone what they mean if you aren't sure?



Those that have met him I’m sure will agree he’s a big fat gobshite tramp but you two bang on like he’s some kind of god who’s been wronged


That's a lie. I don't like NS or some of the things he posts, I've explained that several times.
  1. 22-11-2020 10:24
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Lets think.
Stock exchange/ markets/ financial services are ran/managed by companies/ people that invest in some less than savoury enterprises/ tax ‘creativity’/ large bonuses, all in the name of making vast amounts of money for their clients.
If you can’t see the hypocrisy in that, then you really are a socialist, as there’s nothing as hypocritical as the left.
Incidentally do you have a limit as to how much you will save, l mean surely you’re depriving less well off people from that cash?
  1. 22-11-2020 10:41
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I don’t think Kessler is a real person.
  1. 22-11-2020 10:55
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Lets think.
Stock exchange/ markets/ financial services are ran/managed by companies/ people that invest in some less than savoury enterprises/ tax ‘creativity’/ large bonuses, all in the name of making vast amounts of money for their clients.
If you can’t see the hypocrisy in that, then you really are a socialist, as there’s nothing as hypocritical as the left.


I see the point you are making. Honestly I'm not very comfortable with how financial institutions operate but the reality is you can't go through life without using them in some capacity. For example, your bank might pay you a small bit of interest on your balance. Even if you are uncomfortable about where that money comes from, what are you gong to do? You still need to have a bank account to get your wages. So I don't see any hypocrisy in saving. The system isn't what I'd like it to be but I'm not sure what alternative suggestions you have?

You've brought up a very interesting talking point there. There is a lot of discussion how to allow people to access financial services in a way that fits with their moral beliefs. For example islamic banking. The Muslim faith doesn't believe in charging or receiving interest so they may not want a bank account which will pay them interest on a positive balance.With stocks and shares there's also ethical funds where they only invest your money in companies which are environmentally friendly, pay good wages, treat staff fairly.

Incidentally do you have a limit as to how much you will save, l mean surely you’re depriving less well off people from that cash?


No. Nobody is being deprived from that cash because if I wasn't saving it, I would be using it for something else not handing it out.
  1. 22-11-2020 11:13
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Now you're a mind reader ? You don't know what I'm thinking (just as well). So you're a socialist, so what. I vote conservative so what. But don't accuse me of saying things I haven't. I don't give a toss how you make a living


Practice what you preach, you’ve done that to me twice.

I can’t believe how pathetic and hypocritical this board has become.
  1. 22-11-2020 11:30
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People coming onto a messageboard to twine about a post or twine about someone posting without offering an opinion is what I’d call boring.

It’s utterly pointless and shows you’ve nothing going on in your life you have to goad other people, without offering anything yourself.

It is funny though! Absolutely hypocritical and pathetic but funny.
  1. 22-11-2020 11:34
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You are correct Mullen, there are some on here who are in danger of becoming the Priti Patel's of the board.
Everybody has the right to an opinion and boards like these should be places where people can discuss and debate a variety of subjects without resorting to personal insults.
  1. 22-11-2020 11:52
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The virus must have agreed not to infect anybody over the festive by the look of it.

What Brits can do this Christmas:

It is believed up to four households will be able to meet up indoors including at the pub
This effectively scraps the rule of six over the five-day period
The relaxed rules will likely come in on Christmas Eve through to the Bank Holiday on December 28
All four UK governments are working on a plan that will allow Brits to travel to meet family
Social bubbles will have to be announced in advance and social distancing is still in place - so hugs are still banned
  1. 22-11-2020 17:28
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High Street have a read of this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socially_responsible_investing

There is nothing hypocritical about socialists investing money.
  1. 23-11-2020 08:40
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The number of weekly registered deaths involving coronavirus has exceeded 2,000 in England and Wales for the first time since May, official figures show.

There were 2,466 deaths involving Covid-19 registered in the week ending November 13 in England and Wales, the Office for National Statistics said (ONS).

This is the highest number since the week ending May 22, when 2,589 deaths were registered, and a rise of 529 deaths (27%) from the previous week (ending November 6).

The Covid-19 deaths, which rose for the tenth consecutive week, made up a fifth of the overall deaths in England and Wales in the week ending November 13.


I know those figures are slightly out of date but still.
  1. 24-11-2020 12:15
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We still all terrified of a virus with over 99% survival rate?

Turn the propaganda off and think for yourself. Most untrusted news in europe for a reason
  1. 24-11-2020 12:47
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A further 608 people had died within 28 days of testing positive for the virus. That brings the UK total to 55,838.

And the number of lab-confirmed cases of coronavirus in the UK has risen by 11,299.

The seven day average for daily deaths continues to rise but the numbers for those testing positive has dropped.
  1. 24-11-2020 16:31
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SOCIAL distancing rules will be scrapped for five days at Christmas so Brits can hug their grannies and see their friends as part of a festive plan hammered out today.

Open the windows and bring your own plates and utensils advises the government. Wise words there.
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Britain's daily Covid-19 deaths spike to highest toll since May with 696 victims as infections drop again week-on-week with another 18,213 cases
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  1. 26-11-2020 01:51
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So we are still being told what we can do, who we can see, who we can hug, what we can do in the pub and where we can go.
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We are now three weeks into the lockdown.
If you had been in contact with someone with the virus you had to self-isolate for 14 days .After that if you did not show any symptoms you could come out of self isolation.
So all the data for infections reported now should be for people who have made contact since the lockdown started and not be accounted for by a visit to the pub or the rest of the hospitality sector..

.Wales had a fortnights lockdown during half term and schools were also shut for both weeks.
The results from their lockdown shows a significant decrease in infections.
Our lockdown which does not include students seems to be far less effective.

Does this tell us something?
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Our government are shit.
  1. 26-11-2020 21:58
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So we are still being told what we can do, who we can see, who we can hug, what we can do in the pub and where we can go.



Yes. What we need now are an equivalent of those Pakistani/Iranian Sharia police to beat the non conforming with [censored] off big sticks.
  1. 26-11-2020 18:47
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Like us, the US has virtually no excess deaths either. Hardly what you'd expect living through these unprecedented times. A deadly pandemic to be worth this degree of lunacy, should at least kill more people than would normally die?

https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
  1. 26-11-2020 21:02
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Prawn - Washington state for starters is in a similar lockdown to England .
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Like us, the US has virtually no excess deaths either. Hardly what you'd expect living through these unprecedented times. A deadly pandemic to be worth this degree of lunacy, should at least kill more people than would normally die?

https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19


Lock-downs and restrictions were brought about to protect the NHS from being overwhealmed. Of course, if we do not interact it helps stops the spread. Why (particularly Mullen) are several totally blinded by a dead count ?

Thankfully, the majority that are hospitalised with Covid no longer die, but they still need doctors, nurses, equipment etc.

If the infection rate go's up, the death rate follows, it maybe a less precentage that die than early in the infection.however one follows the other like night follows day.

So, for those who are infatuated by body-counts, get it out of you're head, and try to understand what the main priorities are.
  1. 27-11-2020 10:21
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Typical Tories. In Tier 3 you can't socialise indoors but you can still go to a massage parlour.
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Typical Tories. In Tier 3 you can't socialise indoors but you can still go to a massage parlour.


Typical carwash, can't see the reasoning behind it........
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Like us, the US has virtually no excess deaths either. Hardly what you'd expect living through these unprecedented times. A deadly pandemic to be worth this degree of lunacy, should at least kill more people than would normally die?

https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19


Umm, we have about 65,000 excess deaths

https://www.theactuary.com/2020/11/26/uks-excess-death-toll-rises-around-64900

So that's me right at the apex of the pyramid here, let's see where the response ends up :)
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The other point is, we're having these lockdowns to try and keep that number down along with the associated stuff silentone mentions
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I’m quite please the governments told me I can’t play monopoly this year, hate the game.

Stupid, stupid rules.
  1. 28-11-2020 00:03
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Tier systems is basically lockdown

Theyve got us right where they want us... willing to bow down to any order the propaganda on t.v tells us to do. Slowly but surely leading into a police state.
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IMG_7046.heic
  1. 28-11-2020 11:54
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70 Tory’s will rebel against the tier system at the vote but it’ll get passed as labour and other mps want to ruin the country so they get in next time, political bollocks.

Lockdown
Tiers
Lockdown
Tiers

Ridiculous and Whitty comment of don’t hug grandma because she could be dead in January is fear mongering bollocks. Remember In earlier briefings he admitted very few would be affected.
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Oh dear these responses are down in the yellow and oranges lads

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Been on the news that part of the reason for the high infection rates in Cumbria is because of a major outbreak in a school..
Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard the Schools involved were Richard Rose and Sedbergh schools.

By the way Boris says that to impose the tiers as borough areas rather than county ones makes the system too complicated.
However when you type in the postcode to find out which area you are in it comes up with the borough.

I've always thought that Boris talks a load of bollocks.
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