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03 Nov 2015 16:41 #51 by Bluesmad
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Frampton fought and beat Gonzales Jr in his backyard, he was a weird lad very very skinny even by Bantamweight standards but he could punch beautifully. Different game altogether when Brits fight in the US so that win was massively impressive. Quigg's never boxed professionally outside the UK so it's an interesting fight. Could swing either way but my money will be going on Frampton points decision. Like CCU said this is a proper bout neither will back down.

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20 Nov 2015 14:32 #52 by Wazza
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Happens with nigh on everything that sells out these days - another pisstake regarding tickets, Quiqq v Frampton. You miss out on ticketmaster for face value and then get directed to buy at stub hub, loads on there at inflated prices and on viagogo.

The most blatant pisstake going these days. I never tried buying them myself as busy that weekend already but what a joke really.

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20 Nov 2015 14:46 #53 by Dancingbear
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We tried for them, no joy. Looked right on getmein 229 for sale £40 tickets starting at £164.

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20 Nov 2015 15:04 #54 by Wazza
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It's so obvious it is laughable - Dortmund insiders must be making a packet out of a similar scam.

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20 Nov 2015 19:22 #55 by CCU
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There's more Frampton v Quigg going on sale at midnight if you've got a BoxPass or some bollocks Hearn runs. Basically if you shell out for that you have half a chance of possibly getting a ticket. Load of shite...

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21 Nov 2015 02:20 #56 by Mashie Niblick
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This is why I hope Frampton knocks him out (earlier the better). Can't stand Hearn, his fighters and the boxing cult that follow it all. Silly clowns shelling out for Fight Pass as CCU says.

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21 Nov 2015 10:50 #57 by Wazza
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At 30 quid a year it's not exactly a huge amount to be fair.

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21 Nov 2015 20:56 - 21 Nov 2015 20:58 #58 by Wazza
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Betfair got this Nurse/Jenkins fight as about 1to2 Nurse with 6s on the draw after 12th round. Comms saying they cannot split them, always funny how many people seem to see it very differently when scoring.
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22 Nov 2015 10:22 #59 by CCU
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Alvarez completely controlled Cotto. Golovkin will stop him though...

Good to see Crolla win less than an year after that attack too...

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25 Nov 2015 19:41 #60 by Wazza
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More than likely watch the Fury fight at home but has anywhere in Carlisle got it?

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25 Nov 2015 20:34 - 25 Nov 2015 20:36 #61 by CCU
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25 Nov 2015 21:07 #62 by Wazza
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Could be alright in there on that big projector if they use that like.

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26 Nov 2015 00:13 #63 by ukblue
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Klitschko will probably win after about 7 rounds of communism..... But there's some good prices on Fury in the early rounds... 66-1 for a first round KO, 50-1 each for 2nd, 3rd and 4th.. im sure some lads on here can find better odds... He probably won't do it but if he will win it will be probably be in the early rounds...

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26 Nov 2015 13:35 #64 by mattcufc
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Wazza wrote: More than likely watch the Fury fight at home but has anywhere in Carlisle got it?

Lloyds has it on. Will be on projector at front of pub and down the bottom end by fireplace with sound on

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03 Dec 2015 16:50 - 03 Dec 2015 20:03 #65 by Mashie Niblick
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Anybody bothering with the PPV show next weekend?

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03 Dec 2015 18:08 #66 by mattcufc
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Have booked it on for lloyds again unlikely to have sound on this time though

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03 Dec 2015 20:04 - 03 Dec 2015 20:05 #67 by Wazza
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Hopefully last longer than previous Joshua fights.
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14 Dec 2015 01:16 #68 by Wazza
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Few firms have priced up Joshua potential future fights.

1-12 v Chisora
4-6 v Haye
10-11 v Fury

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23 Dec 2015 16:45 #69 by Wazza
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Wazza wrote: Banged, not sure where he goes from here:


www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/boxing/dav...feat-struck-10634335

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17 Jan 2016 04:46 - 17 Jan 2016 04:57 #70 by Wazza
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Some crack there like from Wilder. Polish lad was doing well.

Far better than the Haye fight.

Fury, what a pillock!
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17 Jan 2016 05:00 #71 by JuanKerzov
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Shanful. Good fight though.

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17 Jan 2016 05:02 #72 by Dancingbear
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What did Fury do?

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17 Jan 2016 05:04 #73 by JuanKerzov
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Lowped in the ring calling him a bum. Wilder says he'll baptise him. Thought Fury was gonna moy him.

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17 Jan 2016 05:23 #74 by Wazza
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Then went after Froch apparently and got thrown out the building!

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17 Jan 2016 08:38 - 17 Jan 2016 08:38 #75 by markredfox73
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Just watched it. Fury doesnt give a toss who he winds up like..Yanks didnt like him at all but no surprise really.But to be fair he aint running scared of anyone..he wants a bash with Wilder..

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17 Jan 2016 08:45 #76 by pensionerblue
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:) Watched the Hayemaker demolish a Aussie guy inside a round, Supposedly ranked 10 in the heavyweight division, Guy had a decent record but it must have been against kangaroos, He was crass,Or Hayemaker was brilliant take your pick....

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17 Jan 2016 12:47 #77 by huddersfieldcock
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David Hayes fight was a joke. The opponent was a bum of the highest order. Haye angling for a stadium fight pay per view with Joshua. Rumour has it he has blown his money. I'm sure he is still a capable boxer with the right opponent as last night proved but he won't beat fury.
As for wilder he is crap if his last two fights are anything to go by unless an opponent leaves himself open to be hit. Hope fury fights him this year and shuts him up
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17 Jan 2016 13:34 #78 by ukblue
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Wilder is interesting to watch as he's dangerous enough to knock a bum out anytime (which is what most of the current fighters in the heavyweight division are).... yet he is very, very fragile. It looked like Szpilka was on course for a huge shock last night... then it looked like he might never walk again... it was a horrendous knockout which caused him to piss himself on the canvas straight away. You can see why Wilders team have been keeping him away from anyone remotely dangerous in his first 30 odd fights.

Fury has more than enough about him to beat Wilder but there's no way he'll avoid Wilder's straight right all night.... it will be an interesting fight.. more interesting than the Klitschko rematch will be.. and more interesting than the WWF bollocks he was pulling off last night in the ring straight after a lad was getting stretchered to hospital.

The IBF title fight (that Fury got stripped of) between Martin and Glaskov last night was an absolute farce. I don't think I've heard the phrase "World Heavyweight Champion" abused so much in one night.

Joshua looks a better prospect than all the above mentioned.... and if Haye get's back to 80% of what he was he's still better than the lot of them put together.

Be expecting some comedy press conference moments.....

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17 Jan 2016 17:16 #79 by Bluesmad
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Don't know what was more ladegful Fury throwing his waistcoat to the ground or Wilder calling him "baby" after every sentence! Utter clart that division!

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18 Jan 2016 21:06 #80 by Wazza
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If klitschko loses to Fury will that be him retiring?

Who is Haye likely to fight next?

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19 Jan 2016 01:18 #81 by chesterviabothel
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Wazza wrote: If klitschko loses to Fury will that be him retiring?

Who is Haye likely to fight next?


You would think so re Klitschko.

Haye was interviewed on TalkSport earlier and was saying he wants to fight who the fans want him to fight, then mentioned Joshua. I think he wants to fight him asap while he thinks he has a chance.

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19 Jan 2016 03:50 #82 by ukblue
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It wouldn't surprise me if Klitschko picks up an "injury" in the build up to the Fury rematch, and never fights again. He has been past his best for at least a couple of years now... he's kept his belts for so long due to the abysmal standard of the heavyweight division.. which is finally improving now just at the same time as he is slowing down. There's not much he's going to be able to do over the next few years with his sum total knowledge of 3 basic punches. If he did beat Fury, I couldn't see him holding onto his belts for long. I imagine him and his brother are switched on enough to be more than rich enough to retire and live comfortably for the rest of their lives many times over..

You never know of course.. there is an absolutely huge and still growing list of boxers who have fought long past their prime...

If I was Haye and I could fight an absolute Grade A turnip and still sell 16,000 tickets at the O2 and get a TV audience of a few million... I wouldn't be rushing for bigger fights just yet. He can stay out of danger for 2-3 fights or a couple of years and pick up a good few million... that gives Joshua a year or so to build up as well... a fight with Joshua looks inevitable at some point and even if it's not for a world strap it would easily sell out Wembley and do very well at PPV... he'd be looking at about a 7 million quid payday for that night... The purses for the 2 heavyweight world title fights on Saturday night were Wilder $1.5 million.. Spilka $250,000.. Glaskov $524,000 and Martin $250,000. Haye would make a lot more just fighting in the UK.. first a couple of more club fighters.. maybe even Chisora again and for a Fury (if he agrees to fight him) or Joshua fight he'd be taking home a minimum of 5 million quid a piece...

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19 Jan 2016 09:04 #83 by markredfox73
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PPV should be banned. Folk pay enough already

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19 Jan 2016 11:29 #84 by ukblue
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markredfox73 wrote: PPV should be banned. Folk pay enough already

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PPV won't be going anywhere for a while yet If people are going to shell out extra cash to watch cards like Cleverly v Bellew and Joshua v Whyte... I can't begrudge a boxer for wanting to make as much money as he can in what is a very dangerous sport... it does leave a bitter taste though for many boxing fans... it's easily the most expensive sport to follow on TV.

Fortunately in 2016 it is incredibly easy to just stream any fight you want to see.

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19 Jan 2016 11:36 #85 by Wazza
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In Denmark do they have pay per view? What would say Kessler/Froch have been on? In Germany they did but not very often - you could see most decent fights on normal tv like away from SKY.

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19 Jan 2016 11:58 #86 by ukblue
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Billy Joe Saunders v Golovkin talks broke down today..

I can't remember a British fighter ever turning down a shot at the WBA and IBF belts (plus the IBO title and WBC Interim belt)

Definitely the biggest duck from a British fighter in living memory....

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20 Jan 2016 18:12 #87 by ukblue
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They have PPV but it's a lot more rare than the UK. Kesslers title fights were PPV.. so were all of Mayweathers.... there was a recent PPV fight between 2 Danish bums which was as shocking as it was always going to be so that should keep PPV's to a minimum here for a while. It was advertised about every 5 minutes during every football match.

Boxing isn't very popular here in Denmark.. they have the rights to all the matchroom, sauerland, hbc and showtime cards but if it clashes with handball, ice hockey, american football, who can throw a log the furthest etc. there's a good chance it won't be on. I've seen late night events as well where it stops before the main event and goes straight into a replay of the undercard.

Streaming is very easy here though as it's hard to take internet sites down.....

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20 Jan 2016 18:55 - 20 Jan 2016 18:56 #88 by Wazza
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Fury Klitschko II at the Allianz in Munich on May 7th is the rumour.
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20 Jan 2016 20:42 - 20 Jan 2016 20:46 #89 by Blues86
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Dont think Joshua is ready for Haye for another few fights. Whyte was the first guy that gave him a go and tested him. He looked shaky at times in that fight and although i think he could eventually be a world champion, why rush into a fight with Haye that you have a good chance of losing? Hes earning millions at the moment and can afford to wait a year or two before risking momentum sapping losses. I also think Haye wants a world title before a Joshua match that could also derail his comeback if he lost. Of course if someone waves x million quid and a sold out Wembley in front of them both, it might be too much to resist.

With Fury, i expect the rematch to be a much harder fight for him. Its basically all or nothing now for Klitschko. If hes gonna lose again and retire he might as well give it everything he has rather than the cagey, try not to lose, approach he took in the first fight. He does still have 4 more fights on his German TV deal - so maybe hes planning to carry on even if he loses in order to fulfill that?
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20 Jan 2016 21:57 #90 by Dancingbear
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Blues86 wrote: Dont think Joshua is ready for Haye for another few fights. Whyte was the first guy that gave him a go and tested him. He looked shaky at times in that fight and although i think he could eventually be a world champion, why rush into a fight with Haye that you have a good chance of losing? Hes earning millions at the moment and can afford to wait a year or two before risking momentum sapping losses. I also think Haye wants a world title before a Joshua match that could also derail his comeback if he lost. Of course if someone waves x million quid and a sold out Wembley in front of them both, it might be too much to resist.

With Fury, i expect the rematch to be a much harder fight for him. Its basically all or nothing now for Klitschko. If hes gonna lose again and retire he might as well give it everything he has rather than the cagey, try not to lose, approach he took in the first fight. He does still have 4 more fights on his German TV deal - so maybe hes planning to carry on even if he loses in order to fulfill that?


Its that attitude thats exactly whats wrong with boxing. Whats so wrong with risking losing?. Joshua prob learned more in his last fight than all the other ones combined. These are hard men, whats wrong with fighting someone thats gonna hit you back?

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20 Jan 2016 22:07 #91 by deer_dance
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Helenius has backed out of the Chisora fight and given up his European title.

Opens up the possibility of Chisora-Johnson next?

Ideal next test for AJ and will send out message if he stops him quicker than Fury or even Haye.

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20 Jan 2016 22:22 #92 by deer_dance
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Blues86 wrote: Dont think Joshua is ready for Haye for another few fights. Whyte was the first guy that gave him a go and tested him. He looked shaky at times in that fight and although i think he could eventually be a world champion, why rush into a fight with Haye that you have a good chance of losing? Hes earning millions at the moment and can afford to wait a year or two before risking momentum sapping losses. I also think Haye wants a world title before a Joshua match that could also derail his comeback if he lost. Of course if someone waves x million quid and a sold out Wembley in front of them both, it might be too much to resist.

With Fury, i expect the rematch to be a much harder fight for him. Its basically all or nothing now for Klitschko. If hes gonna lose again and retire he might as well give it everything he has rather than the cagey, try not to lose, approach he took in the first fight. He does still have 4 more fights on his German TV deal - so maybe hes planning to carry on even if he loses in order to fulfill that?


Its that attitude thats exactly whats wrong with boxing. Whats so wrong with risking losing?. Joshua prob learned more in his last fight than all the other ones combined. These are hard men, whats wrong with fighting someone thats gonna hit you back?


You don't learn much if you get knocked out cold. There is a fair chance he would never be the same. Nothing wrong with building a fighter up as long as the opponents keep on getting better.

Difficult to compare Whyte with Haye but it's probably fair to say he is leagues below.

At this point in Lewis's career he was fighting Euro level fighters. That is where AJ should be as well.
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20 Jan 2016 22:38 #93 by Dancingbear
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Blues86 wrote: Dont think Joshua is ready for Haye for another few fights. Whyte was the first guy that gave him a go and tested him. He looked shaky at times in that fight and although i think he could eventually be a world champion, why rush into a fight with Haye that you have a good chance of losing? Hes earning millions at the moment and can afford to wait a year or two before risking momentum sapping losses. I also think Haye wants a world title before a Joshua match that could also derail his comeback if he lost. Of course if someone waves x million quid and a sold out Wembley in front of them both, it might be too much to resist.

With Fury, i expect the rematch to be a much harder fight for him. Its basically all or nothing now for Klitschko. If hes gonna lose again and retire he might as well give it everything he has rather than the cagey, try not to lose, approach he took in the first fight. He does still have 4 more fights on his German TV deal - so maybe hes planning to carry on even if he loses in order to fulfill that?


Its that attitude thats exactly whats wrong with boxing. Whats so wrong with risking losing?. Joshua prob learned more in his last fight than all the other ones combined. These are hard men, whats wrong with fighting someone thats gonna hit you back?


You don't learn much if you get knocked out cold. There is a fair chance he would never be the same. Nothing wrong with building a fighter up as long as the opponents keep on getting better.

Difficult to compare Whyte with Haye but it's probably fair to say he is leagues below.

At this point in Lewis's career he was fighting Euro level fighters. That is where AJ should be as well.


Yeah and Mike Tyson was World Champion. Everyones different, Joshua Haye would be a very good fight. I dont know how getting knocked out means theres a fair chance youd never be the same.

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20 Jan 2016 22:43 - 20 Jan 2016 22:44 #94 by Wazza
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Confidence, can really affect people - happened in plenty of sports where people been thrown in at the deep end. Sometimes works but can also really knacker some people long term.
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20 Jan 2016 23:14 #95 by Dancingbear
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Wazza wrote: Confidence, can really affect people - happened in plenty of sports where people been thrown in at the deep end. Sometimes works but can also really knacker some people long term.


Or you can be protected like someone like David Price then when you finally fight someone whos gonna hit you back we all saw what happened. I do agree to a extent about being thrown in the deep end but Joshua v Haye doesnt exactly sound like the deep end to me. Hayes only had 1 fight in the 3.5 years Joshua has been a pro.

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20 Jan 2016 23:22 - 20 Jan 2016 23:22 #96 by Wazza
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No huge rush for it to happen. Boxers careers can be short, do it when he is 100% ready, I certainly wouldn't be backing him at the price on offer right now if it was to happen by December.
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20 Jan 2016 23:38 #97 by Dancingbear
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Yeah just had a look on skybet. Theyve got him favourite v everyone.

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21 Jan 2016 03:57 #98 by ukblue
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Unfortunately having a zero on your record seriously affects your ability to get the really big money fights... it is also a very slow, gradual learning curve to get to be competitive at the elite level.... you'll rarely see an elite figher who has had less than 20 odd fights... and that would include coming through some tough, hard tests along the way... although there are a few dangerous recently-turned-pro Soviet bloc fighters about at the moment. It's completely standard for someone like Joshua to learn his trade against the standard of Whyte, Chisora and other European and Domestic level fighters before fighting someone as dangerous as Haye. 3 and a half years out shouldn't change the fact that Haye is on a completely different level to him.

The shame in boxing in recent times is when fighters do get to the top they are still avoiding each other. Mayweather is the obvious example but there are plenty of others... Canelo, BJ Saunders and Cotto have all visibly ran from Golovkin in the last 12 months. Sergei Kovalev is going to find it hard to get opponents to fight him as he is an utter lunatic. Hopefully the winner of Quigg Frampton will fight Rigo but they'll most probably find an excuse to fight someone else.

Its the first time for about 15 years though that people are talking about the heavyweight division which can only be a good thing... the current number 1 is English (Fury)... the most naturally gifted fighter in the division is English (Haye) and the most exciting prospect is English (Joshua)... I reckon the other 2 world champs Deontay Wilder and Charles Martin wouldn't have a problem fighting in England either so there's probably going to be more than a few big stadium fights in England over the next few years....

I'm surprised the bookies have Klitschko as favourite in the rematch. What I've seen from him for years has been utter clart.

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26 Jan 2016 13:16 - 26 Jan 2016 13:17 #99 by Wazza
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Be a let down for some folk if they name Helnius as his next opponent!

www.matchroomboxing.com/news/joshua-i-ca...et-back-in-the-ring/
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26 Jan 2016 13:23 - 26 Jan 2016 13:25 #100 by ukblue
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He vacated his European belt to avoid Chisora.. (never thought I'd say to avoid Chisora)... so he's most probably got a decent payday lined up against Haye or Joshua...

Edited to say: He actually moved down in the world rankings after his earlier win against Chisora... which very rarely happens... the decision was that bad
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