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27 Jan 2020 22:50 #5901 by High Street
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feckwittery wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

thesilentone wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: We don't want to stay in the EU because we don't want millions of East Europeans being given the right to infest our fair land

The UK had the option to refuse that right as we held an opt out/weren't require to implement it when the eastern expansion too place...

...the UNITED KINGDOM CHOSE TO GRANT IT. (and the UK could have still refused entry to them if it so desired)


Not sure your right there.

We are not part of Schengen, and still maintain Border Controls.


He is completely wrong. At the time of the Poles joining the EU, the EU estimated the number of Poles who would move and how that number would be split amongst the EU countries and at the time the British government decided it was a figure they could live with and didn't enact the protections that we could have used. Turned out 3 times more than they estimated left Poland and they got the split figures completely wrong to the point where 10 times as many Poles came here as had been predicted [ a lot of it due to our lax benefit regulations compared with other established EU countries ie the dodge where they brought their kids over on holiday and then made claims for them despite them having disappeared back east months earlier ]

When it was time for the Romanias to join and be entitled to come here having had our fingers severely burnt by the Poles we went to enact the opt-out legislation only to find that it had been time-limited and had expired and there was nothing we could any longer do about it.

Or more simply put, the UK chose to allow it when the option to decline it existed.
ie. the UK chose to allow free movement during the eastern expansion.

But it's just yet another one you (brexiteers) blame the EU or those nasty foreigners for, instead of UK domestic ineptitude.


Im sure the sentence ‘Blair chose not to limit immigration’ might disprove your theory.

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28 Jan 2020 00:40 #5902 by Bluedazblue
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feckwittery wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

thesilentone wrote:

feckwittery wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: We don't want to stay in the EU because we don't want millions of East Europeans being given the right to infest our fair land

The UK had the option to refuse that right as we held an opt out/weren't require to implement it when the eastern expansion too place...

...the UNITED KINGDOM CHOSE TO GRANT IT. (and the UK could have still refused entry to them if it so desired)


Not sure your right there.

We are not part of Schengen, and still maintain Border Controls.


He is completely wrong. At the time of the Poles joining the EU, the EU estimated the number of Poles who would move and how that number would be split amongst the EU countries and at the time the British government decided it was a figure they could live with and didn't enact the protections that we could have used. Turned out 3 times more than they estimated left Poland and they got the split figures completely wrong to the point where 10 times as many Poles came here as had been predicted [ a lot of it due to our lax benefit regulations compared with other established EU countries ie the dodge where they brought their kids over on holiday and then made claims for them despite them having disappeared back east months earlier ]

When it was time for the Romanias to join and be entitled to come here having had our fingers severely burnt by the Poles we went to enact the opt-out legislation only to find that it had been time-limited and had expired and there was nothing we could any longer do about it.

Or more simply put, the UK chose to allow it when the option to decline it existed.
ie. the UK chose to allow free movement during the eastern expansion.

But it's just yet another one you (brexiteers) blame the EU or those nasty foreigners for, instead of UK domestic ineptitude.


I don't understand your argument. If you're pro-EU and the freedom of movement of people as enshrined in in Maastricht treaty, how can you suggest that the UK was inept in applying that policy?

Are you in favour of the changes brought about by Maastricht or not?

If so, you should welcome immigration from Eastern Europe, rather than describe the UK's policy of allowing that immigration as inept.

And the opt-out to which you refer only applied for three years anyway.

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28 Jan 2020 16:15 #5903 by seesaw50
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seesaw50 wrote: 4 days to go.


3 Days to go

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28 Jan 2020 16:18 #5904 by seesaw50
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The whole of Europe, including the UK, is suffering from free movement from Eastern Europe.....one word
CRIMINALS

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28 Jan 2020 16:27 #5905 by sirjimmyglass
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The whole of Europe, including the UK, is also benefiting from the workmanship of talented and experienced individuals from all over Europe.

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28 Jan 2020 16:54 #5906 by Waltero
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I won't be waiting until 2300 hrs to celebrate, I'll be having a few beers earlier than that
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28 Jan 2020 16:58 #5907 by NORTHERNSOUL
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sirjimmyglass wrote: The whole of Europe, including the UK, is also benefiting from the workmanship of talented and experienced individuals from all over Europe.


YOU'RE HAVING A [censored] LAUGH SCUMBAG GYPOS THE [censored] LOT OF THEM

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28 Jan 2020 18:16 #5908 by topstepwhinger
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As eloquent and intelligent a response as usual NS to something you 'don't quite agree with'.

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28 Jan 2020 19:10 #5909 by NORTHERNSOUL
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topstepwhinger wrote: As eloquent and intelligent a response as usual NS to something you 'don't quite agree with'.


Its nothing to do with whether its something I agree with or not it's quite simply a statement of fact

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28 Jan 2020 19:20 #5910 by Chilledsilly
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A statement of fact ????

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29 Jan 2020 11:30 #5911 by seesaw50
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29 Jan 2020 16:01 #5912 by CCU
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Sour grapes?!


Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

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29 Jan 2020 18:20 #5913 by CCU
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And folk wanted to remain part of this ‘project’?



Farage was cut off from his goodbye speech like a naughty schoolkid for waving a flag!


Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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29 Jan 2020 18:52 #5914 by Chilledsilly
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Disgracefull prat !
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29 Jan 2020 19:24 #5915 by Dentonholmersimpson
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CCU wrote: And folk wanted to remain part of this ‘project’?



Farage was cut off from his goodbye speech like a naughty schoolkid for waving a flag!


Funnily enough a couple of years ago, Junker said the EU can't be blamed for the problems that led to brexit.

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29 Jan 2020 19:32 #5916 by munchymagic
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Chilledsilly wrote: Disgracefull prat !


Just imagine in a few years time when we will be encouraged to put up flags and be proud of our nation and we will all look back on this silly bit of history where people just got offended for the sake of it.

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29 Jan 2020 20:44 #5917 by Chilledsilly
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If you thought the problem was just waving sandcastles flags ... watch it again .
The mans a prat

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29 Jan 2020 20:54 #5918 by Dentonholmersimpson
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Chilledsilly wrote: If you thought the problem was just waving sandcastles flags ... watch it again .
The mans a prat


Your entitled to your opinion, but in a democracy you are mostly in the minority, not just about Nigel Farage.

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29 Jan 2020 20:58 #5919 by topstepwhinger
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Farage makes you feel so proud to be British!!!!!!!!!
What a [censored]

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29 Jan 2020 21:01 #5920 by Bruntonpasty
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Don't worry...... Be happy!

They don't like it up 'em!
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29 Jan 2020 21:19 #5921 by NORTHERNSOUL
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topstepwhinger wrote: Farage makes you feel so proud to be British!!!!!!!!!
What a [censored]


He certainly does Big Nige right at the front of making Britain Great again

Put him in charge of rubbing The Krauts and The Frogs noses in the shit and repatriating hundreds of thousands of Poles and Gypos but then again that might be a better job for Tommy Rob.
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30 Jan 2020 08:08 #5922 by BlueAl
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Nigel Farage. For years they dismissed, ridiculed and laughed at him. One man against the EU establishment. But he never gave up on his principles, always told it as it was. But they weren't laughing yesterday. A true British patriot, he will always be respected by the silent majority. The sad sour name callers need to have a good look at themselves and decide who's side they are on.
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30 Jan 2020 09:31 #5923 by thesilentone
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Farage did not deliver Brexit, the British people did. At the time of the referendum we made a choice between Cameron and Boris, we chose Boris, it was Boris's decision to vote to leave the EU that swung the populist vote.

It is now over for Farage, he has served a purpose, the light will go out, the Brexit Party has zero influence any longer in the UK.

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30 Jan 2020 10:16 #5924 by topstepwhinger
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

topstepwhinger wrote: Farage makes you feel so proud to be British!!!!!!!!!
What a [censored]


He certainly does Big Nige right at the front of making Britain Great again

Put him in charge of rubbing The Krauts and The Frogs noses in the shit and repatriating hundreds of thousands of Poles and Gypos but then again that might be a better job for Tommy Rob.


No words necessary.................................................................................
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30 Jan 2020 10:26 #5925 by topstepwhinger
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BlueAl wrote: Nigel Farage. For years they dismissed, ridiculed and laughed at him. One man against the EU establishment. But he never gave up on his principles, always told it as it was. But they weren't laughing yesterday. A true British patriot, he will always be respected by the silent majority. The sad sour name callers need to have a good look at themselves and decide who's side they are on.


You're correct they weren't laughing......most right minded people both in Brussels and elsewhere were looking at him in pity.
I'm sure having taken so many for a ride he will now take his money and run, and slide back under the stone from whence he came.

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30 Jan 2020 10:42 #5926 by seesaw50
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30 Jan 2020 11:01 #5927 by Laffy
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Alan

Why don’t we organise a walk up Scafell and combine things into a Boris victory and Brexit party-we can be pictured on top with our bunting?

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30 Jan 2020 16:32 #5928 by Ibogaine
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Saved you a walk lads


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30 Jan 2020 16:43 #5929 by Wukkie
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It's a bit chilly up there this time of year to be dressed like that lads.

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30 Jan 2020 20:40 #5930 by Flatcap
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I remember when we had the vote on Brexit there was no mention of the Irish border.
After the vote it was all about the Irish border.

Now we are leaving tomorrow again no mention about what is going to happen in the Irish Republic.

The Republic is still in the EU. Most of the trade between them and Europe comes through the UK via either Holyhead or Stranraer. After Brexit this would mean checks between the EU and the UK and then again between the UK and the Republic of Ireland.

In the future would this still be the case? Or would ferries operate between Dublin or Cork and Rostoff and Cherbourg, meaning no checks would be necessary.

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30 Jan 2020 21:05 #5931 by munchymagic
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The next influx of immigrants that we will be getting will be refugees escaping from the EU, regular French, German and Italian families who wish to remain living in Europe in a civilized country whilst not being part of the dictatorship that is the EU.
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30 Jan 2020 22:09 #5932 by ExiledJock
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I have written to them (all of them) to let them know they can stay with you. I said you promise not to serve curry and there will be free XL Cheese for the first 300,000.
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31 Jan 2020 01:08 #5933 by munchymagic
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ExiledJock wrote: I have written to them (all of them) to let them know they can stay with you. I said you promise not to serve curry and there will be free XL Cheese for the first 300,000.



I had Lamb Rogan Josh earlier, not my favourite as I like something spicier.

And it is a long way to come for 300,000 people just to see my fireworks go off in celebration of us leaving the EU.

Twenty two hours and counting - no need for the bitter tone EJ.
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31 Jan 2020 01:34 #5934 by High Street
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This is comedy gold

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31 Jan 2020 07:21 #5935 by Alan
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Happy Brexit Day to the 17,410472 people who voted Leave of which I am proud to be one of them.

Commiserations too to all you remoaning cry babies come 11 o'clock your irrelevance will be 100% complete.

What a day !

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31 Jan 2020 07:24 #5936 by Alan
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Ibogaine wrote: Saved you a walk lads


Your getting sloppy ibo that's a shot from Lingmell not Scafell :-)
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31 Jan 2020 08:08 #5937 by BlueAl
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Happy days! Three and a half years to do what should have been a year at most.

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31 Jan 2020 08:35 #5938 by Yorkie Blue
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Goodbye to the European Parliament, that pointless, expensive talking-shop. I won't miss Brussels and Strasbourg with their dodgy accounting, their red tape and stagnation, and I definitely won't miss that poxy European flag.

For the first time in over 45 years, we're on our own. It`ll be difficult at times, there are always ups and downs when you set out on a new course.

But if the UK can make it work, as I believe we will, then one day we`ll look across to Europe and wonder why we ever doubted ourselves.

Stay safe, stay healthy all.
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31 Jan 2020 08:56 #5939 by Taffy-P
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The first country in history to declare sanctions on itself

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31 Jan 2020 09:30 #5940 by AlbertRoss
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If you want to ask questions about how things will actually work in the real world you've come to the wrong place.

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31 Jan 2020 09:51 #5941 by Waltero
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Be interesting to see if the Krankie woman takes down the EU flags. She'd probably rather take the Union Flag down, xenophobic little sh1t that she is
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31 Jan 2020 09:56 #5942 by Dancingbear
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My Pugs just barked at a French Bulldog. Definitely a positive sign*













































* This may not have actually happened

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31 Jan 2020 10:32 #5943 by High Street
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Waltero wrote: Be interesting to see if the Krankie woman takes down the EU flags. She'd probably rather take the Union Flag down, xenophobic little sh1t that she is


School standards plummeting, Police stations falling apart, hospitals killing children, but they tabled a debate on Wednesday to vote to keep the flag flying.
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31 Jan 2020 10:45 #5944 by orfc
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Yorkie Blue wrote: Goodbye to the European Parliament, that pointless, expensive talking-shop. I won't miss Brussels and Strasbourg with their dodgy accounting, their red tape and stagnation, and I definitely won't miss that poxy European flag.

For the first time in over 45 years, we're on our own. It`ll be difficult at times, there are always ups and downs when you set out on a new course.

But if the UK can make it work, as I believe we will, then one day we`ll look across to Europe and wonder why we ever doubted ourselves.



Hang on, stop there.

We were told it was all going to be good, it'd be the easiest trade deal ever and we'd get £350m a week extra to spend on what we liked. There was no mention of [censored] 'difficulties' at any point.

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31 Jan 2020 10:57 #5945 by Dancingbear
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orfc wrote:

Yorkie Blue wrote: Goodbye to the European Parliament, that pointless, expensive talking-shop. I won't miss Brussels and Strasbourg with their dodgy accounting, their red tape and stagnation, and I definitely won't miss that poxy European flag.

For the first time in over 45 years, we're on our own. It`ll be difficult at times, there are always ups and downs when you set out on a new course.

But if the UK can make it work, as I believe we will, then one day we`ll look across to Europe and wonder why we ever doubted ourselves.



Hang on, stop there.

We were told it was all going to be good, it'd be the easiest trade deal ever and we'd get £350m a week extra to spend on what we liked. There was no mention of [censored] 'difficulties' at any point.


We were also told thered have to be a emergency budget the day after the vote, did that ever happen?. As usual the truth will be somewhere in the middle.

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Yorkie Blue wrote: Goodbye to the European Parliament, that pointless, expensive talking-shop. I won't miss Brussels and Strasbourg with their dodgy accounting, their red tape and stagnation, and I definitely won't miss that poxy European flag.

For the first time in over 45 years, we're on our own. It`ll be difficult at times, there are always ups and downs when you set out on a new course.

But if the UK can make it work, as I believe we will, then one day we`ll look across to Europe and wonder why we ever doubted ourselves.


Not sure how you think we can make it work - as a country we are hardly setting the world alight with our poverty and inequality, infrastructure, rail system, prison service, NHS, schools, child poverty, homelessness, manufacturing, poor productivity, low economic growth, housing, foreign influences............. but hey all this will change once the foreigners have gone home!

Interesting interview on 5 live yesterday with Rory Stewart about the farcical number of ministers over recent years in cabinet positions, meaning the impossibility of actually achieving anything - in just 3 years he was international development minister, Africa minister, prisons minister, and international development secretary, and called it a farce as he was unable to achieve anything as he was in each job for such a short period of time!.

- our political system is a joke, so yes, there isn't a hope in hell we can make Brexit work! PS. Where are these Russian Reports?

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31 Jan 2020 17:38 #5947 by seesaw50
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31 Jan 2020 17:40 #5948 by BlueBanana
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But, but they said it would never happen!

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31 Jan 2020 18:22 #5949 by Waltero
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Border news must have hunted down every remainer they could get their hands on. Whingeing sods
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31 Jan 2020 20:02 #5950 by seesaw50
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