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25 Mar 2020 15:15 #151 by Markovitch
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If they can hold on for another 6 months Kelvin Etuhu could make another appearance
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25 Mar 2020 15:21 #152 by CarlisleWhite
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Putting your wind up aside Nobby, I fully accept that there are far more important things going on at present, but what if a large company was hit with a deduction of say £150M through no fault of their own, which is what some clubs would be denied? Might be Leeds are one, might be not.
The clubs are lined up already to start the legal actions (rightly or wrongly) and not just in the championship, and the EFL are so tin pot they would not know where to start with it.
They cannot even penalise a club for breaking FFP who are sponsored by a taxi firm with no taxis and a drinks company who do not make drinks. Or a club with a ground in the prestige location of Derby with a ground they value at more than prime land in Chelsea.
Clubs will go to the wall if the games are not played (thankfully not Carlisle). Who takes their place if the leagues below have shut?
Not sure what is behind the non-leagues making such an early decision mind, and feels very much like testing the water.

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25 Mar 2020 15:35 #153 by CCU
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Any Club taking Legal Action relating to this virus can get to [censored] IMO...

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25 Mar 2020 15:35 #154 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote: Sensible option is to simply void the Season, like they did 1939/40 due to WW2. Yes, it’s tough on those top of the Leagues, but in the grand scheme of things it’s not the end of the World.

Plus it’ll be hard to get League’s going again - Do you need a mini pre-Season? Player contracts legal minefield? Knock-on into the next Season? All questions that are incredibly hard to work out!

Any chairman (Hi Peterborough!) threatening legal action at a time of national crisis should be embarrassed by their actions...


Well even if they were to void the season they would still be one club short

Which would give them 3 options

1] Run the next season with one club short........... Not very likely I wouldn't think.

2] Readdmitt Bury............ Legally if Bury met all the requirements [ and Dale says he has a way of doing that ] I think they would have to let them back in but then you have the question of the points penalties and whether they would apply or not and the knock-on effect that would then have on say BWFC MTFC etc etc .

3] Admit Barrow to fill the vacant spot ............ Probably the easiest solution because there isn't really a club [ other than Bury ] who could complain at that.

The Non-league [Step 5 downwards] and the FA now have a solution in place and all they are waiting for is some clarification from the FL as to what they are doing [ They dont even need a decision just a scenario plan

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25 Mar 2020 15:40 #155 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote: Any Club taking Legal Action relating to this virus can get to [censored] IMO...


Well if I was the West Brom owner i.d have that lawyer who chased the Oystons on speed dial and ready to go at the first sniff of being denied.

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25 Mar 2020 15:46 #156 by Wukkie
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If a few clubs went to the wall it would be the perfect excuse to put the 'B' teams into the FL pyramid to make up the numbers.

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25 Mar 2020 15:46 #157 by CarlisleWhite
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CCU wrote: Any Club taking Legal Action relating to this virus can get to [censored] IMO...


Well if I was the West Brom owner i.d have that lawyer who chased the Oystons on speed dial and ready to go at the first sniff of being denied.

Top six have already said it. Add in the others with a chnace of the play offs, Peterborough man.
That and the fact no one has any balls at the EFL means very unlikely to void it.
Postman Shaun's lasting legacy.

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25 Mar 2020 16:37 #158 by Flatcap
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CCU wrote: Unfortunately Flatcap a lot of Players will be out of Contract come June 30th. Some will already have moves lined up for July 1st!

How can you continue a Season with completely different Squads?


Why not? Most of the games have already been played.
We will not lose all the players and actually the squads change quite a bit in the January transfer window anyway.

Otherwise it means writing off two seasons if football doesn't start before the end of this year,

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25 Mar 2020 16:46 #159 by NORTHERNSOUL
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CCU wrote: Any Club taking Legal Action relating to this virus can get to [censored] IMO...


Well if I was the West Brom owner i.d have that lawyer who chased the Oystons on speed dial and ready to go at the first sniff of being denied.

Top six have already said it. Add in the others with a chnace of the play offs, Peterborough man.
That and the fact no one has any balls at the EFL means very unlikely to void it.
Postman Shaun's lasting legacy.


McAnthony is pretty certain it wouldn't even get to legal because if you look at the tables there are enough clubs there that would be affected and when you add in the unaffected ones but who support him like Andy Holt they would have enough to unseat the present administration on the matter replacing them with one that would give them what they want.

And that would be the best thing ever the clubs themselves actually making the decisions on a day to day basis rather than a few faceless employees who haven't even got the balls to sign e.mails they send.
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25 Mar 2020 16:47 #160 by thetashkentterror
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I really need to keep up with football better, because I must have missed the part of the season where Leeds and West Brom became uncatchable in the two automatic promotion places.
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25 Mar 2020 17:12 #161 by CarlisleWhite
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thetashkentterror wrote: I really need to keep up with football better, because I must have missed the part of the season where Leeds and West Brom became uncatchable in the two automatic promotion places.

Not sure who has said that Tachy.
I would much prefer to see the season finished. The only opportune one I have seen was the West Ham owner who said within days to void the season so they don't go down.
Don't get me wrong, I would happily accept going up to get out of this shit of a league, but my youngest says he's waited 16 years for this and is desperate to see us do it properly. We have three generations go every week (was four until a couple of seasons ago) and I just want our young one and my sons lad to see us playing big games every week.

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25 Mar 2020 17:17 #162 by Dancingbear
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Id have no problem with restarting if possible but failing that id take voiding it over awarding promotion and relegation to teams who hadnt clinched anything just yet. Fair do's the like of Leeds would be upset but on the flip side so would the teams relegated. What would happen for instance in Holland where Ajax and Alkmaar are level on points at the top.

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25 Mar 2020 17:21 #163 by CarlisleWhite
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Restart as late as it takes for me. Probably behind closed doors for top two leagues to start with.
Too much of a minefield otherwise. And not just because Leeds are involved.
If I was being parochail, I would add Leeds and West Brom to prem, with same principle down the leagues, then the shit teams still in the prem would give us a better chnace of staying up next season.

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25 Mar 2020 18:03 #164 by CCU
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Who actually cares?

Void it, start again next Season.

Any Clubs who go legal get absolute pelters from the other 80 odd Clubs until the end of time.

Bury have no chance of rejoining either...

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25 Mar 2020 18:24 #165 by Dancingbear
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CCU wrote: Who actually cares?

Void it, start again next Season.

Any Clubs who go legal get absolute pelters from the other 80 odd Clubs until the end of time.

Bury have no chance of rejoining either...


Apparently Celtic do. They’re rolling out someone different everyday saying Rangers should concede the league.

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25 Mar 2020 18:54 #166 by CCU
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Dancingbear wrote:

CCU wrote: Who actually cares?

Void it, start again next Season.

Any Clubs who go legal get absolute pelters from the other 80 odd Clubs until the end of time.

Bury have no chance of rejoining either...


Apparently Celtic do. They’re rolling out someone different everyday saying Rangers should concede the league.


Sporting integrity and all that eh?!

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25 Mar 2020 22:08 #167 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote: Who actually cares?

Void it, start again next Season.

Any Clubs who go legal get absolute pelters from the other 80 odd Clubs until the end of time.

Bury have no chance of rejoining either...


If the league is voided and then started again as if season 19/20 hadn't taken place then they have no choice but to include Bury the only way they couldn't would be if they invited them but they then couldn't meet the league's demands but Dale has already said that if that was to be the situation then he has a way of doing that I would imagine that he would use it as an opportunity to sell it and recover some of his losses its fairly common knowledge down there that he wants 400k for what he still owns.

Not sure where you get 11 clubs from I would imagine any club mathematically still possible of being in the playoffs would support the action Blackburn, for instance, have said they will ] minus of course the team in the top playoff position if they were to promote the highest-ranked team but then if you just voided the league and they weren't to be promoted they would join in as well. Then include the championship clubs who are seeing this as a way to take back control of the league and finally throw in the clubs who support Darragh MacAnthonys wider agenda like Andy Holt at Accy and its pretty clear they would have a majority and would, therefore, be able to push through their agenda without going anywhere near the courts. Taking control of the league would just be seen as a bonus and would put an end to lower league clubs who exist from the league's handouts and tv money which could only be a good thing for the likes of CUFC.

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25 Mar 2020 22:25 #168 by topstepwhinger
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As there are only a handful of games left I don't see a problem in finishing the season as it is. Any teams with games in hand over the team(s) who have played the most, add on their average points per game thus far.
Let the gob****** threaten legal action, and tell them where to go.

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25 Mar 2020 23:13 #169 by NORTHERNSOUL
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topstepwhinger wrote: As there are only a handful of games left I don't see a problem in finishing the season as it is. Any teams with games in hand over the team(s) who have played the most, add on their average points per game thus far.
Let the gob****** threaten legal action, and tell them where to go.


Well if you were to use PPG [ points per game ] to determine promotion playoffs and relegation then most of the clubs leading this [ and the ones willing to finance it ] would have been satisfied and the threat would go away Its the idiots who think you can void the entire season and not promote anybody and just start again without the clubs concerned going legal who are living in cloud cuckoo land.

But for the clubs in the championship, it's about way more than this and goes back to the league management going behind their back and giving away the rights to stream all the games to Sky for nothing.

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25 Mar 2020 23:27 #170 by CCU
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Be interesting to see the current standings of the opposition that those at the top/bottom of each Division still have to play.

A team at the top due to play say the bottom six could easily lose out on a PPG solution - Similar scenario to the strength of teams Bolton were putting out early in the Season compared to now...

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26 Mar 2020 14:17 #171 by Wukkie
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Would people's opinions be different about voiding the season if Carlisle were 12 pts clear at the top?
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26 Mar 2020 14:24 #172 by nobbyblue
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Ian Evatt been on talksport today saying if the seasons null and void Barrow could be finished.

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26 Mar 2020 14:32 #173 by Burneside Blue
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Let's just use the Duckworth Lewis method and be done with it.
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26 Mar 2020 15:18 #174 by topstepwhinger
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Burneside Blue wrote: Let's just use the Duckworth Lewis method and be done with it.


Exactly.

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26 Mar 2020 15:20 #175 by CCU
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Bad news for Workington:


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26 Mar 2020 15:26 #176 by CarlisleWhite
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What leagues are these steps CCU - Below conference north and south?
Be realy ironic if, after all the fighting they did to get promotion to the football league in the structures (and then two places) if they give it up.
Surely not?

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26 Mar 2020 15:48 #177 by CCU
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Yes, everything below National League N/S (Step 2)...

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26 Mar 2020 16:08 #178 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CarlisleWhite wrote: What leagues are these steps CCU - Below conference north and south?
Be realy ironic if, after all the fighting they did to get promotion to the football league in the structures (and then two places) if they give it up.
Surely not?


Yes steps two and three are what we know as the Northern Premier League

If I was Workington I wouldn't be too concerned as it's estimated that between 25% and 50% of the clubs in the Conference will go bust if there isn't some sort of resolution over the payment of contracts very quickly and they will need to be replaced by more clubs from somewhere and the conference are laying the blame firmly at the FL.s door who appears to be just sitting on their arses assuming making a few loans and advancing a few payments will protect the vulnerable clubs in their league never mind showing any concern for those below them.

I would say if the NL don't get confirmation that their players can go on the 80% scheme very quickly club owners will start taking measures to protect their own businesses by jettisoning their interests in football clubs and that will lead to the inevitable conclusion.

This could all have been avoided if the FA had taken a stronger stance and ensured a common policy in concluding the leagues as far down the steps as players get paid and ensured that the PL Sky/BT and the govt stepped up to save what are vital parts of communities. They missed a massive opportunity yesterday by not putting the local football club at the forefront of this army to assist those who need it.

But the biggest culprit in this is the PL and its clubs if they had donated 50 million it would have cost each of their clubs 2.5m out of their 300m earnings in the next 3 years throw in contributions from the tv companies PL players and the govt and you would have had a fund not far short of 100m which would have kept the league structure intact.

Pretty soon we will have players too stubborn to see they have a duty to football, in general, holding out for every penny they're owed and then as a result having to claim for Universal Credit.

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26 Mar 2020 16:28 #179 by CarlisleWhite
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So its because they can claim the 80% of wages from the government then if the league is cancelled, reading between the lines?

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26 Mar 2020 16:44 #180 by Dancingbear
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topstepwhinger wrote:

Burneside Blue wrote: Let's just use the Duckworth Lewis method and be done with it.


Exactly.


You’ve got to get back on under the duckworth Lewis method or it’d be void.

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26 Mar 2020 16:45 #181 by Dancingbear
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nobbyblue wrote: Ian Evatt been on talksport today saying if the seasons null and void Barrow could be finished.


Is that coz they’ve overspent to get promotion? If it is there’s no guarantee they’d have gone up anyway.

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26 Mar 2020 16:47 #182 by nobbyblue
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Aye looks that way. Risky way to run a club!

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26 Mar 2020 17:29 #183 by CCU
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CarlisleWhite wrote: What leagues are these steps CCU - Below conference north and south?
Be realy ironic if, after all the fighting they did to get promotion to the football league in the structures (and then two places) if they give it up.
Surely not?


Yes steps two and three are what we know as the Northern Premier League


Step 2 is National League North & South.

Step 3 is Northern Premier League.

Step 4 is Northern Premier League Div One NW - Workington’s current level.

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26 Mar 2020 17:49 #184 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CarlisleWhite wrote: What leagues are these steps CCU - Below conference north and south?
Be realy ironic if, after all the fighting they did to get promotion to the football league in the structures (and then two places) if they give it up.
Surely not?


Yes steps two and three are what we know as the Northern Premier League


Step 2 is National League North & South.

Step 3 is Northern Premier League.

Step 4 is Northern Premier League Div One NW - Workington’s current level.


Aye thats spot on

Latest News National league will not resume

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26 Mar 2020 17:50 #185 by NORTHERNSOUL
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CCU wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CarlisleWhite wrote: What leagues are these steps CCU - Below conference north and south?
Be realy ironic if, after all the fighting they did to get promotion to the football league in the structures (and then two places) if they give it up.
Surely not?


Yes steps two and three are what we know as the Northern Premier League


Step 2 is National League North & South.

Step 3 is Northern Premier League.

Step 4 is Northern Premier League Div One NW - Workington’s current level.


Aye thats spot on

Latest News National league will not resume


www.lep.co.uk/sport/football/national-le...m_source=parsely-api

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26 Mar 2020 17:52 #186 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CarlisleWhite wrote: What leagues are these steps CCU - Below conference north and south?
Be realy ironic if, after all the fighting they did to get promotion to the football league in the structures (and then two places) if they give it up.
Surely not?


Yes steps two and three are what we know as the Northern Premier League

If I was Workington I wouldn't be too concerned as it's estimated that between 25% and 50% of the clubs in the Conference will go bust if there isn't some sort of resolution over the payment of contracts very quickly and they will need to be replaced by more clubs from somewhere and the conference are laying the blame firmly at the FL.s door who appears to be just sitting on their arses assuming making a few loans and advancing a few payments will protect the vulnerable clubs in their league never mind showing any concern for those below them.

I would say if the NL don't get confirmation that their players can go on the 80% scheme very quickly club owners will start taking measures to protect their own businesses by jettisoning their interests in football clubs and that will lead to the inevitable conclusion.

This could all have been avoided if the FA had taken a stronger stance and ensured a common policy in concluding the leagues as far down the steps as players get paid and ensured that the PL Sky/BT and the govt stepped up to save what are vital parts of communities. They missed a massive opportunity yesterday by not putting the local football club at the forefront of this army to assist those who need it.

But the biggest culprit in this is the PL and its clubs if they had donated 50 million it would have cost each of their clubs 2.5m out of their 300m earnings in the next 3 years throw in contributions from the tv companies PL players and the govt and you would have had a fund not far short of 100m which would have kept the league structure intact.

Pretty soon we will have players too stubborn to see they have a duty to football, in general, holding out for every penny they're owed and then as a result having to claim for Universal Credit.


Birmingham first club to take action

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27 Mar 2020 06:46 #187 by Demonseye48
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All leagues below the Premier League, the season is over, no promotion or relegation.....poor Barrow

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27 Mar 2020 07:00 #188 by walwynlegend
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It's from step 3. Barrow are in step 1

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27 Mar 2020 08:36 #189 by Zenon
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Daily Telegraph reporting this morning that they have seen the following correspondence

“Carlisle United have informed players that they will be treated as a ‘furloughed employee’. Players at the League Two club have been assured that it will not affect their contracted payments and full salaries will be paid on normal dates”.

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27 Mar 2020 08:47 #190 by CCU
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Assume it’s in this piece:


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27 Mar 2020 08:49 #191 by CCU
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Demonseye48 wrote: All leagues below the Premier League, the season is over, no promotion or relegation.....poor Barrow


If only we’d been discussing it all yesterday!

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27 Mar 2020 08:57 #192 by CarlisleWhite
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Apparently the non league voiding is about payments. Players become due some payment or other from the clubs if seaon extends, which they cannot afford.

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27 Mar 2020 13:58 #193 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote: Assume it’s in this piece:


Makes complete sense to me

Is there anybody who actually thinks the players would be required to do any work for the club in the next 3 months anyway ? and if they were the club just cancel the furlough and start paying them in full.

And the scheme CUFC seems to be adopting is one where the players will actually receive their wages in full on the date it is due [ irrespective of where that money came from] meaning all they are doing is accepting a 2.5k wage subsidy from the government for each player.

The word is the PFA is going to advise any player on less than 5k a week not to accept deferred payments anyway but there could be consequences a way down the line for any clubs who do that in that they could well end up being placed under a transfer embargo until all those deferred payments were repaid.

So instead of the Telegraph seemingly criticising CUFC for their actions they should instead be congratulating them for being leaders in coming up with a plan that ensures their employees are paid in full and on time.

But that given I would say any player on more than 5k who isn't willing to come to some sort of arrangement over their wages deserves showing the door the minute their contract expires.

And then we come to the PL where we have hundreds of players sat on their arses doing nothing while expecting to be paid hundreds of thousands of pounds and if the PFA were worth a jot they would be "encouraging" them to be donating a good proportion to places that deserve it a damm site more than they do.

Oh and wasn't that a magnificent gesture from the Manchester clubs to donate a massive 50k each to the local NHS foundation I for one really hope they send the cheques back saying "thanks but no thanks but you clearly need the cash more than we do"

And while we're talking about the Telegraph wouldn't it be really good of them if during the crisis they took their site from behind its paywall in order to expose their excellent journalists content to a much wider audience.

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27 Mar 2020 14:12 #194 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CarlisleWhite wrote: Apparently the non league voiding is about payments. Players become due some payment or other from the clubs if seaon extends, which they cannot afford.


It's more about the clubs below the National League knowing that if the season is definitely not restarting they can cancel the player contracts and negotiate settlements with them rather than having to negotiate extensions on the off chance that they would be ordered to play the outstanding games.

Today it's rumoured that a number of NL clubs with little to play for are also going to adopt this policy seeing that saving their clubs from financial disaster is worth the risk against being ordered to play the outstanding games at some time in the future using whatever players they have at their disposal [ youths scholars and non-contract] but as Dan pointed out where would that leave the integrity of the competition then.

Pretty strongly rumoured today that Chorley are way past any of that and will be going into administration sooner rather than later.
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27 Mar 2020 15:23 #195 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote: Assume it’s in this piece:


If anybody is looking for full details of the PAYE scheme the govt released the details at 1pm today and I don't see anything there that precludes either FL or non-league players being included that is except any who have separate companies to handle say their image rights deals but can't see there being many of them in leagues one and two.

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27 Mar 2020 15:24 #196 by NORTHERNSOUL
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

CCU wrote: Assume it’s in this piece:


If anybody is looking for full details of the PAYE scheme the govt released the details at 1pm today and I don't see anything there that precludes either FL or non-league players being included that is except any who have separate companies to handle say their image rights deals but can't see there being many of them in leagues one and two.


www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2020...campaign=27-Mar-2020

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27 Mar 2020 16:12 #197 by CarlisleWhite
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NS - it is wage deferal the players are taking, not wage cuts.
How can the club claim furlough for wage deferals. It's clearly an abuse of the intentions of the scheme.
Players can have mortgage holidays like everyone else to reduce their outgoings, so am afraid this is just wrong.
If the begging bowl is to come out, it should be the FA, the EFL or the Premier League stumping up.
No sign of the highest paid union official in the world taking a pay cut I see.
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27 Mar 2020 16:29 #198 by Wukkie
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Reds are 10 points clear at the summit of the North West table with seven games remaining and yet the season is null and void.

Absolute joke when the division has been three-quarters played.
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27 Mar 2020 16:44 #199 by thetashkentterror
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The team ten points behind have three games in hand.

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27 Mar 2020 17:32 #200 by CCU
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thetashkentterror wrote: The team ten points behind have three games in hand.


And the team in 4th have 6 games in hand and a 19pt gap. Not impossible...

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

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