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25 Feb 2020 22:23 #1 by munchymagic
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With not knowing much about chlorinated chicken and with the the EU and their scare stories about the Americans force feeding us it I thought that I would read up on it.

From what I read into it this 'washed' chicken meat is something that we should possibly be doing in the UK anyhow, the problem comes from that it could mask the hygiene of the meat and as it comes from outside of the country then traceability is hard but there is no reason why with our own meat and welfare standards there should be an issue.

The EU have put a block on this in the short term, not because they have suddenly started caring about us it is basically because the Americans will undercut them, the French are shitting themselves as us leaving the EU just gets worse and worse by the minute for them and now we will not want their chicken either.

As I said I am prepared to be proved wrong on this but from what I read it is scaremongering in the extreme, you would have to eat three whole chickens per person per day over a sustained period to be affected.

“immersing poultry meat in chlorine dioxide solution of the strength used in the United States reduces prevalence of salmonella from 14% in controls to 2%. EU chicken samples typically have 15-20% salmonella.”


www.thegrocer.co.uk/food-safety/chlorina...orine/555618.article

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25 Feb 2020 23:02 #2 by Dentonholmersimpson
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A load of hipocrisy as usual.US chicken is cleaned with lactic acid, much as our beef is in this country.

How many times have we been told over the last 20 years that most supermarket chicken is a health risk.

Takeaways sourcing chicken from the far east, coronavirus central.

We have had salmonella in eggs, bse, foot and mouth and dodgy horsemeat from the EU in recent years, hardly a case for taking the moral high ground.
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25 Feb 2020 23:28 #3 by Markovitch
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As someone who lived in America I can't begin to say how shit the food is. When you cook chicken it halves in size. Go on holiday for 3 weeks, come home, milk, bread, ham, still fresh in the fridge. Go into the supermarket, thousands of identical rosy red apples. Bite into one and it's like eating plastic.

McDonald's running cafes on schools and hospitals. Terrible
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25 Feb 2020 23:29 - 25 Feb 2020 23:39 #4 by Bluedazblue
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Salad leaves in this country are already washed in chlorine.
www.independent.co.uk/environment/salad-...the-bag-5349186.html

In fact you would probably ingest more chlorine from eating a pre-packed salad than eating a chlorinated chicken, and certainly far more if you swim in a public swimming pool.
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26 Feb 2020 02:17 #5 by munchymagic
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Markovitch wrote: As someone who lived in America I can't begin to say how shit the food is. When you cook chicken it halves in size. Go on holiday for 3 weeks, come home, milk, bread, ham, still fresh in the fridge. Go into the supermarket, thousands of identical rosy red apples. Bite into one and it's like eating plastic.

McDonald's running cafes on schools and hospitals. Terrible


You will have a far better idea on it then most then having actually eaten it.

Surely though the food lasting longer is to do with additives and hormones or whatever they inject the animals with or feed them.

I wouldn't have thought that merely washing them to destroy bacteria would affect the taste.

My guess is that the EU do not want us to even try it as if we discover that it is no different to normal chicken for a cheaper price then the boat has sailed on us ever buying from them again in the quantities of the past.

You cannot fool the public though so they will decide on its fate, nobody will buy it if it is an inferior bland product but if there is no health risks and it puts food onto peoples plates for cheaper then it could be a massive success - I reckon once stuck into a KFC or some chicken nuggets and you wouldn't know the difference anyhow.

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26 Feb 2020 09:46 #6 by High Street
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Pre packed salad leaves are indeed washed in chlorine, as indeed are quite a lot of salad you get served in restaurants, most catering companies sell dissolvable chlorine tablets for this purpose. Also, best practice for ice tongs and scoops to be stored in the same kind of chlorine solution.
I think we used to do it to chickens, in the UK, but the French got it banned through the EU.

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26 Feb 2020 10:03 #7 by heilkmoon
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Markovitch wrote: As someone who lived in America I can't begin to say how shit the food is. When you cook chicken it halves in size. Go on holiday for 3 weeks, come home, milk, bread, ham, still fresh in the fridge. Go into the supermarket, thousands of identical rosy red apples. Bite into one and it's like eating plastic.

McDonald's running cafes on schools and hospitals. Terrible


Interesting that Burger King are running a big ad campaign based around the fact that their burgers go mouldy.

edition.cnn.com/2020/02/19/business/burger-king-mold/index.html

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26 Feb 2020 10:14 #8 by Molly123
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They say you are what you eat. I was told when a kid that anything consumed in moderation is ok. Shop at Aldi now and find their meat and poultry tastes fine. Don't know much about and preperation and additives to be honest but sixty years on and I seem to be doing ok.

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26 Feb 2020 12:07 #9 by feckwittery
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America relies on chlorinating chicken to make it safe for human consumption.
It's not the fact they chlorinate it that's the problem, it's the system that relies on it to make the food safe.
The problem is this rudimentary 'catch-all' allows and promotes unsafe production processes, why bother improving the process if we're just gonna chlorinate it anyway?

It also doesn't work very either: the USA's rate of chicken related food-poisoning is sky high compared to others.

I'll take the better regulated, better standard, better raised chickens from the current standards please. And the cheaper won't wash, you can get whole chickens for under £3 these days.

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26 Feb 2020 12:18 #10 by NORTHERNSOUL
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feckwittery wrote: America relies on chlorinating chicken to make it safe for human consumption.
It's not the fact they chlorinate it that's the problem, it's the system that relies on it to make the food safe.
The problem is this rudimentary 'catch-all' allows and promotes unsafe production processes, why bother improving the process if we're just gonna chlorinate it anyway?

It also doesn't work very either: the USA's rate of chicken related food-poisoning is sky high compared to others.

I'll take the better regulated, better standard, better raised chickens from the current standards please. And the cheaper won't wash, you can get whole chickens for under £3 these days.


Don't fall for its just yet another untruth being perpetrated by some very sad and deluded remoaner types.

Chlorinated or not just how much profit do they think they're going to make on shipping a £3 chicken halfway around the world in a temperature-controlled box.

We.ve had the fantasy drug shortages and the imaginary car industry job losses and now the chlorinated chicken all turning out to be a load of complete bollocks wonder what sad remoaners will be turning to next ?
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26 Feb 2020 12:20 #11 by Markovitch
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Both the US Department of Agriculture, and the European Food Safety Authority, have approved chlorine baths as safe.

However, European health authorities fear that allowing producers to dip their chickens in chlorine gives them a free pass to engage in unhygienic chicken farming before the slaughter.

The EU generally opposes such chemical interventions and believes that stronger sanitary practices during production and processing are more appropriate for pathogen control than what it views as US overreliance on chlorine and related antimicrobial baths.

In Europe, farmers take a "farm-to-fork" approach to preventing contamination by pathogens like salmonella. There, poultry may only be washed in cold water or cold air, and most of the burden of keeping the animals free of contamination is borne by pricey pre-slaughter farming practices designed to limit bacterial infection.

Of course the extra work done to maintain high hygienic standards means that UK chicken are overall more expensive than those in the US. Opening the market to US chicken would decimate UK farmers, who would be forced to either toss out their current hygienic standards and start chlorinating chicken (and thus lock themselves out of the EU market), or continue to uphold EU regulations and see their domestic sales wrecked by cheaper chlorinated American chicken. Fearing job losses, the British Poultry Council told the Guardian it "rejects the notion of importing chlorine-washed chickens as part of…trade negotiations with the US."

In the US, where lax hygienic standards allow large farms to confine birds in tightly-packed spaces, fecal contamination is hard to prevent. Fecal matter containing salmonella bacteria can get on the meat itself during the slaughter process, and live chickens can become infected by contact with fecal matter, including by eating rat droppings. Chicken eggs can be infected too, if they are laid by a hen who already has the bacteria.

Despite the American chlorine baths salmonella remains a massive problem in the US supply chain. A 2014 Consumer Reports investigation found fecal-borne contaminants, including salmonella, in over half of the samples. And in 2016, the USDA said it had found salmonella on a quarter of all cut-up chicken parts on their way to US supermarkets.

In fact, an investigation by a team of microbiologists from Southampton University and published in the US journal mBio, found that bacilli such as listeria and salmonella remain completely active after chlorine washing. The process merely makes it impossible to culture them in the lab, giving the false impression that the chlorine washing has been effective.

The US’s salmonella problem has been particularly hard to control. The USDA doesn’t treat salmonella as an "adulterant" which means that salmonella contamination won’t trigger a recall (and that also means little media attention). The USDA began routinely testing chicken for salmonella only in February 2016, and finally set a "maximum acceptable" rate of contamination at 15.4%.

The question remains whether a 15.4% risk is good enough for you.

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26 Feb 2020 12:23 #12 by Bruntonpasty
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Simple answer to this problem, buy British..... support uk agriculture not the EU or the US. Support your local butcher, chances are much of his meat is locally sourced or at least from the UK, be more discerning in how you shop and what you buy.

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26 Feb 2020 12:33 #13 by feckwittery
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Barry, do you actually read and understand stuff before you blurt out your usual arse gravy?

It's got bugger all to do with "remoaners". It's got bugger all to do with "chlorination being declared safe by xyz". It's everything to do with the poor standards within a production chain that requires chlorination at the end of it.

The USA's rates of chicken related food poisoning speaks for itself. That'll be the statistics out out by the FDA, not a "sodding remoaner".
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26 Feb 2020 13:02 #14 by NORTHERNSOUL
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feckwittery wrote: Barry, do you actually read and understand stuff before you blurt out your usual arse gravy?

It's got bugger all to do with "remoaners". It's got bugger all to do with "chlorination being declared safe by xyz". It's everything to do with the poor standards within a production chain that requires chlorination at the end of it.

The USA's rates of chicken related food poisoning speaks for itself. That'll be the statistics out out by the FDA, not a "sodding remoaner".


Yes thanks, I do

Although you clearly don't

Chlorinated or not Well produced or not there is simply no profit to be made shipping chickens from America for them to sell in Tescos for 3 quid or less end of story simply won't happen so if allowing them to be able to do it gets us something else back in a trade-off and they want to lose hundreds of thousands doing it then let them it will last about 2 weeks.

What the hells the point banning something that already happens here in one form or another already ?

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26 Feb 2020 13:17 #15 by feckwittery
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I wasn't discussing effing profit. Jesus wept.

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26 Feb 2020 13:26 #16 by feckwittery
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It's banned because the poor production chain that relies on it is significantly bad for public health.

US chlorinated chicken results in far higher rates of public food poisoning than the rest of the western world (even the world as a whole). It's not directly because it's chlorinated, it's because the shoddy "[censored] it, it'll be chlorinated" US production system that relies on it, results in chickens which are far less fit for human consumption.

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26 Feb 2020 13:43 #17 by NORTHERNSOUL
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feckwittery wrote: I wasn't discussing effing profit. Jesus wept.


But I was. thats the point before you poked your [censored] nose in

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26 Feb 2020 13:53 #18 by NORTHERNSOUL
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feckwittery wrote: It's banned because the poor production chain that relies on it is significantly bad for public health.

US chlorinated chicken results in far higher rates of public food poisoning than the rest of the western world (even the world as a whole). It's not directly because it's chlorinated, it's because the shoddy "[censored] it, it'll be chlorinated" US production system that relies on it, results in chickens which are far less fit for human consumption.


So maybe you'd like to explain why you think the Great British Public will buy chicken in Tesco covered in stickers that say "Unhygenically produced chlorinated chicken produce of the USA" that will be 50% dearer than what we have now and the price of which should drop anyway once our farmers no longer have to abide by all that EU shite.

Doesn't make the slightest sense on any level that I can see unless of course, you're just another of the sad remainer [censored] who are holding this country back by grabbing onto whatever straws they can find.

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26 Feb 2020 14:08 #19 by feckwittery
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Not sure what you're getting at Barry.
Gonna guess you're in favour of allowing UK producers to produce their chickens to US standards rather than the current UK standards (which are the same as the EU's).

So in your brave new world, the UK consumer, will have the choice between piss poor US chicken or piss poor UK chicken both of which will have significantly more chance of leaving them with food-poisoning than the current standards.

PS: All that "EU shite" is the UK's shite and the reason for it still stands. It protects the consumer from substandard production chains.

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26 Feb 2020 14:17 #20 by munchymagic
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End of the day I reckon most of us would buy British anyhow as it makes sense and you are more than likely getting a superior product.

However like Barry mentions it is mainly Remainers who are anti USA and I would rather buy American just to piss the French off and I can say that I did my part in making their economy shrink further - the French have never liked us so why are some people all of a sudden licking their arses?
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26 Feb 2020 14:27 #21 by Waltero
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De Gaulle had the right attitude. He didn't want us in the common market and put block on. We should have listened to him. I definitely didn't vote to go in.
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26 Feb 2020 14:43 #22 by feckwittery
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munchymagic wrote: End of the day I reckon most of us would buy British anyhow as it makes sense and you are more than likely getting a superior product.

Right up to the point where the basic standards are lowered, which they will have to be in order to allow "chlorinated" US chicken to be imported. The race to the bottom will ensue and we'll all be worse off for it.

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26 Feb 2020 14:58 #23 by Flatcap
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munchymagic wrote: End of the day I reckon most of us would buy British anyhow as it makes sense and you are more than likely getting a superior product.

However like Barry mentions it is mainly Remainers who are anti USA and I would rather buy American just to piss the French off and I can say that I did my part in making their economy shrink further - the French have never liked us so why are some people all of a sudden licking their arses?


If you buy American and end up with food poisoning and the shits, you will end up pissing yourself off.

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26 Feb 2020 15:49 #24 by munchymagic
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Flatcap wrote:

munchymagic wrote: End of the day I reckon most of us would buy British anyhow as it makes sense and you are more than likely getting a superior product.

However like Barry mentions it is mainly Remainers who are anti USA and I would rather buy American just to piss the French off and I can say that I did my part in making their economy shrink further - the French have never liked us so why are some people all of a sudden licking their arses?


If you buy American and end up with food poisoning and the shits, you will end up pissing yourself off.


That's like guaranteeing that you will actually get the shits from American chicken and not French.

I am more and more realising how much the EU and in particular the French need us, they hate this fact and resent us for it.

I suppose they had this picture of how Europe should be and we have told them to go and stick it.

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26 Feb 2020 16:15 #25 by topstepwhinger
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You are wasting your time Feckwittery trying to have a sensible discussion with NS, and unfortunately the usual disciples keep encouraging him - possibly for entertainment purpose, giving them the benefit of the doubt.

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26 Feb 2020 16:24 #26 by munchymagic
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topstepwhinger wrote: You are wasting your time Feckwittery trying to have a sensible discussion with NS, and unfortunately the usual disciples keep encouraging him - possibly for entertainment purpose, giving them the benefit of the doubt.


Strange thing to come out with topstepwhinger, I wouldn't say anyone on here has any disciples.

At a push I would say Ibogaine has a steady following.
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26 Feb 2020 16:34 #27 by thesilentone
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The argument is over animal welfare, and something we need to consider. At the moment there is a ' anti-animal meat ' culture growing in the UK, as well as consumer confidence. Farm to Fork guarantees high welfare and healthy product (even though a few let the side down from time to time). High quality costs, and the EU likes standards and regulations.
Don't think there will be anything wrong with chlorinated chicken, especially when it comes from a Country where litigation is the order of the day.
But, if we want high quality food, from assured farms which are regulated and audited allowing chlorinated chicken fly's in face of this.

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26 Feb 2020 16:52 #28 by munchymagic
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thesilentone wrote: The argument is over animal welfare, and something we need to consider. At the moment there is a ' anti-animal meat ' culture growing in the UK, as well as consumer confidence. Farm to Fork guarantees high welfare and healthy product (even though a few let the side down from time to time). High quality costs, and the EU likes standards and regulations.
Don't think there will be anything wrong with chlorinated chicken, especially when it comes from a Country where litigation is the order of the day.
But, if we want high quality food, from assured farms which are regulated and audited allowing chlorinated chicken fly's in face of this.


So technically what we are nearly all agreed on is that buy British, still keep up the welfare checks and chlorinate it as it is only cleaning it and making it even more safe to consume as there will be obviously some rogue British farmers out there so it is a safety net.

I also notice that most remainers have no problem ripping into the Americans but those lovely Muslim people are above criticism with their hygiene regarding animals and the barbaric way in which Halal meat is prepared - I also reckon remainers would rather eat chicken direct from Wuhan than America.

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26 Feb 2020 17:04 #29 by topstepwhinger
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I'm not sure why you keep bringing Brexit into everything.
I would rather buy British, as most people would but if not I'm more concerned with quality than where it came from, and I'm certainly not anti American.

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26 Feb 2020 17:09 #30 by Bruntonpasty
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I may be incorrect on this but.. Here goes.... When we are no longer members of the EU, there is nothing to stop us promoting/subsidising our own agricultural industry to ensure that it is better for consumers to buy British, whilst we are members of said EU, this could go against level playing field/competition rules. As I say, I may not be entirely correct in this but I would wager it's not too far from the truth. British agriculture is on the whole very very good in comparison to many of our EU counterparts, with government and consumer backing, it can do even better in my view. BUY BRITISH FOLKS, YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!

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26 Feb 2020 18:23 #31 by munchymagic
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Bruntonpasty wrote: I may be incorrect on this but.. Here goes.... When we are no longer members of the EU, there is nothing to stop us promoting/subsidising our own agricultural industry to ensure that it is better for consumers to buy British, whilst we are members of said EU, this could go against level playing field/competition rules. As I say, I may not be entirely correct in this but I would wager it's not too far from the truth. British agriculture is on the whole very very good in comparison to many of our EU counterparts, with government and consumer backing, it can do even better in my view. BUY BRITISH FOLKS, YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!


We all agree on this BP.

It is really down to personal preference of who you would choose as second choice though, saying that I have never had any trouble getting a British chicken and I cannot recall even seeing chickens from anywhere else in the stores.

Maybe it would just be the gnarly take-aways who would look to buy wholesale chicken from anywhere as long as the cost is low.

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26 Feb 2020 18:32 #32 by munchymagic
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topstepwhinger wrote: I'm not sure why you keep bringing Brexit into everything.
I would rather buy British, as most people would but if not I'm more concerned with quality than where it came from, and I'm certainly not anti American.


Because obviously the remainers are going to side with everything their French brothers tell them.

Funny how France don't seem to like washed chickens yet they turn a blind eye to Halal as this is not a threat to their economy.

And are you telling me that like over here the Americans do not have a 'premium' or 'luxury' free range chickens for sale that would be a little more expensive over there but in line with over here?

I find Halal far more a disgusting concept than chlorinated chicken - what happens there is that it has to be clearly labelled and you have a choice to buy it or not, the same would apply to chlorinated chicken, it isn't like you will be force fed it or anything therefore I would see it as a restriction of trade over the Americans that we have allowed the French to impose on us.

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26 Feb 2020 19:46 #33 by thesilentone
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Bruntonpasty wrote: I may be incorrect on this but.. Here goes.... When we are no longer members of the EU, there is nothing to stop us promoting/subsidising our own agricultural industry to ensure that it is better for consumers to buy British, whilst we are members of said EU, this could go against level playing field/competition rules. As I say, I may not be entirely correct in this but I would wager it's not too far from the truth. British agriculture is on the whole very very good in comparison to many of our EU counterparts, with government and consumer backing, it can do even better in my view. BUY BRITISH FOLKS, YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!



I would say nearly spot on, and there we have the new Irish Border of the negotiations. If we want to export to the EU in our new trade agreement, of course we will need to comply with all EU regulations and standards. However, they will try to protect themselves from competition by making those standards a cloak that covers all things whether made or imported into the UK.

Promoting British may also contradict and conflict with what, say the Yanks, Indians, Japs, Indonesians etal will want in any trade agreement they want with the UK.

So, it's down to how much do we need there products and how much they need ours.

For what it's worth, a hell of allot of our Chicken comes from the middle east anyway.

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26 Feb 2020 20:05 #34 by munchymagic
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I have no idea on the laws with this, maybe they can be packaged over here and therefore labelled as British - I know that certain goods get around it this way.

For example, I was looking for a dvd holder on ebay and looking through the listings there was a 'buy British' flag so I clicked on it but the picture was the same I was looking at from China, then it says allow a month for delivery - basically they stuck two quid on and they order on your behalf from China.

By the way the DVD holder was shite, looks all smart and that in the pictures like a mini black briefcase that holds four hundred discs, my suspicions arose half way through filling it when it looked way too full - by the time I had filled the case it looked ridiculous plus I honestly had to sit on it and get the missus to zip it up, it was like shoehorning Bella Emberg into a size 8 dress and it was all bumpy with the zip poised ready to ping off anytime under the massive pressure.

I took loads of discs out and missed filling in sheets and it still looked awful, so much for my 'lets get rid of all this clutter and fire all the cases in a box and stick them in the loft'.

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26 Feb 2020 20:55 #35 by topstepwhinger
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*NEWSFLASH*
All remainers hate all things America, and agree with everything the French say.......apparently.

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26 Feb 2020 21:02 #36 by munchymagic
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topstepwhinger wrote: *NEWSFLASH*
All remainers hate all things America, and agree with everything the French say.......apparently.


The truth hurts.

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26 Feb 2020 21:15 #37 by Taffy-P
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Chlorinated chicken is just the start
Hormone Beef
Delay at the borders
Easiest deal in history
Access to the single market
300 million for the NHS
All lies
Now they are saying a hit to the economy is worth it for sovereignty more lies
I am not going to have a go at the lied to I’m going to say I TOLD YOU SO to the liars Farage Johnson Gove etc

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26 Feb 2020 21:20 #38 by Dentonholmersimpson
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How many of the ones on here complaining about US chicken will own up to having a kebab after a heavy night out.

Christ alone knows the origin of that so called meat, enough to say once saw a delivery driver rolling them over the tarmac to the shop.

Only about 5 years ago.

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26 Feb 2020 21:27 #39 by Dancingbear
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I’ll own up to having a kebab stone cold sober. I’ve also had loads of various takeaway food in America. How I’m alive god only knows.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!
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26 Feb 2020 21:28 #40 by Dancingbear
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I’d add if folk were that bothered about what they were eating they wouldn’t be eating much at all.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!
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26 Feb 2020 21:32 #41 by Dentonholmersimpson
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Dancingbear wrote: I’ll own up to having a kebab stone cold sober. I’ve also had loads of various takeaway food in America. How I’m alive god only knows.


Your body has obviously built up a resistance over the years, if you deny youself these things, exposure to them later in life can be fatal, a bit like Theakston's Old Perculiar and rattlesnake venom.
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26 Feb 2020 23:32 #42 by NORTHERNSOUL
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thesilentone wrote: The argument is over animal welfare, and something we need to consider. At the moment there is a ' anti-animal meat ' culture growing in the UK, as well as consumer confidence. Farm to Fork guarantees high welfare and healthy product (even though a few let the side down from time to time). High quality costs, and the EU likes standards and regulations.
Don't think there will be anything wrong with chlorinated chicken, especially when it comes from a Country where litigation is the order of the day.
But, if we want high quality food, from assured farms which are regulated and audited allowing chlorinated chicken fly's in face of this.


Animal welfare regulations simply shouldn't apply to animals bred purely for us to eat.

All it does is un necessarily push up the cost of our food.

After all theyre [censored] chickens

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26 Feb 2020 23:45 #43 by topstepwhinger
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Another sick joke, right?

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26 Feb 2020 23:50 - 27 Feb 2020 06:13 #44 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Taffy-P wrote: Chlorinated chicken is just the start
Hormone Beef
Delay at the borders
Easiest deal in history
Access to the single market
300 million for the NHS
All lies
Now they are saying a hit to the economy is worth it for sovereignty more lies
I am not going to have a go at the lied to I’m going to say I TOLD YOU SO to the liars Farage Johnson Gove etc


And to think they say the remoaners arent bitter

If you don't like THE GREAT BRITAIN that's coming then why don't you PISS OFF and live in Rumania or Latvia.

But why you think it won't be easy I haven't a clue when all we have to do is tell Macron and Merkel to do one and stick their EU right up their arses and proudly leave with NO DEAL.
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26 Feb 2020 23:57 #45 by NORTHERNSOUL
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topstepwhinger wrote: Another sick joke, right?


NOT AT ALL

Why should we give a [censored] about the welfare of some brain dead animals who wouldnt even exist if we weren't breeding them to eat?

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27 Feb 2020 07:13 #46 by Markovitch
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Government doesn't care about the brain dead people who voted for them, why care about chickens?
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27 Feb 2020 11:20 - 27 Feb 2020 11:33 #47 by Waltero
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I'll treat that comment with the contempt it deserves Marko. Said looks like a true remoner
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27 Feb 2020 11:36 #48 by triskelionblue
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Markovitch wrote: As someone who lived in America I can't begin to say how shit the food is. When you cook chicken it halves in size. Go on holiday for 3 weeks, come home, milk, bread, ham, still fresh in the fridge. Go into the supermarket, thousands of identical rosy red apples. Bite into one and it's like eating plastic.

McDonald's running cafes on schools and hospitals. Terrible


Agree 100% lived there for a long time myself and nothing goes off as it's all processed shite

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27 Feb 2020 13:07 #49 by topstepwhinger
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Sorry, I can't get this picture out of my head - it is of a reincarnated NS as a puffed up tattooed chicken shouting 'come on I'll take you all on' whilst patting his BCF (Border Chicken Firm) badge.

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27 Feb 2020 13:17 #50 by sirjimmyglass
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Waltero wrote: I'll treat that comment with the contempt it deserves Marko. Said looks like a true remoner


Okay, boomer.

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