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02 Feb 2020 16:28 #1 by Urban Designer
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What is going on with England?

France 24 England 7 after 58 mins.

A couple of things for rugby that would make football better:

Rugby VAR is so much better - you can hear the discussion and the decision is made in a few seconds.

Only the Captain can speak to the referee.
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02 Feb 2020 16:40 #2 by aberdeenblue28
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I think TMO is better because it allows the refs to watch it as well as a discussion

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02 Feb 2020 16:43 #3 by Urban Designer
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Yes - more transparent hearing the discussion.

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02 Feb 2020 16:51 #4 by ParcelPete
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Footballers spend 90 minutes pretending they are injured and Rugby players spend 80 minutes pretending they are not.
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02 Feb 2020 17:58 #5 by Yorkie Blue
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That was a pretty poor display by England, don`t wish to take anything away from France though, they played well, their English defence coach Shaun Edwards has instilled some steel into their defence in his short tenure. The aggressiveness of the defence resulted in some English handling errors when we were in promising territory in their 22. The first half was best forgotten, the second was better, but too much to do, at least a losing bonus point.

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03 Feb 2020 12:50 #6 by thesilentone
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We lost the first half due to basic errors, the gap was to wide for us to win it in the second half.

Shaun Edwards should be hung, drawn and quartered for treason.

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03 Feb 2020 14:40 #7 by Turnbull
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ParcelPete wrote: Footballers spend 90 minutes pretending they are injured and Rugby players spend 80 minutes pretending they are not.


Has you account been hacked by Toby from Twickenham?

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03 Feb 2020 15:22 #8 by HuntingHorn
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Turnbull wrote:

ParcelPete wrote: Footballers spend 90 minutes pretending they are injured and Rugby players spend 80 minutes pretending they are not.


Has you account been hacked by Toby from Twickenham?


It's pretty much the truth.

Played in both National League 1 Rugby and North West Counties Football/Northern Premier League (I struggled in both if I'm honest about it)
Footballers are by far the softer of the two groups....not even open to debate. It's just fact.
I've seen a couple of loonies playing football too but they're the minority rather than 'the norm', Rugby has that demographic stitched up tight!

It's better to be silent and assumed a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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03 Feb 2020 15:46 #9 by Urban Designer
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Apparently Carlisle are pretty high up in the rugby union period I was told at xmas.

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03 Feb 2020 15:55 #10 by ParcelPete
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Urban Designer wrote: Apparently Carlisle are pretty high up in the rugby union period I was told at xmas.


Do they only play once a month ?
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03 Feb 2020 16:26 #11 by CCU
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ParcelPete wrote:

Urban Designer wrote: Apparently Carlisle are pretty high up in the rugby union period I was told at xmas.


Do they only play once a month ?


Aye but it’s a bloodbath seemingly...

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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03 Feb 2020 18:06 #12 by franksidebottom
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Football could take loads of things from both codes of rugby, the fact is that football on the whole is too arrogant to be seen to be taking ideas from what they’ll see as inferior sports.

When it comes to hardness footballers aren’t even mapped compared to rugby, they’re absolutely pathetic in fact. And when it comes to dedication to your sport they’re probably bottom of the pile compared to all sports.

“Yeah, I know of Barry. Bit of a fantasist” - John Courtenay 2003
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05 Feb 2020 14:17 #13 by HuntingHorn
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For sheer mental and physical strength nothing beats Cyclists, think what you want about EPO and the drug culture but they are head and shoulders above any other sports people for being able to suffer.

Football is a joke really, the level of injury feigning is laughable, the slightest touch warrants a yelp and several barrel rolls across the pitch...

Cricket, Rugby League and later Rugby Union all use review/VAR style technology without any real controversy
How simple is it to mic a premier league ref up? Clears up most of the VAR Confusion over in one move.

The biggest issue with football though is the governing body that can't leave the rules alone or leave them simple enough that everyone can clearly understand them...

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05 Feb 2020 15:18 #14 by heilkmoon
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HuntingHorn wrote: For sheer mental and physical strength nothing beats Cyclists, think what you want about EPO and the drug culture but they are head and shoulders above any other sports people for being able to suffer.


Not sure about that. What about boxing?

Cycling is just one of many endurance sports and in most forms it is seated with regular breaks from maximum effort. Most lists of the toughest endurance sports place it behind things like marathon running, rowing, decathlon and water polo.

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05 Feb 2020 20:10 #15 by HuntingHorn
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Plenty of examples where riders have come a cropper, broken things or been ill and carried on for another two or three weeks.
Definitely no other sport that happens as regularly.
A Quickstep rider went down a 20ft embankment head first, snapped his kneecap and rode the rest of the 50km to the finish, he only retired after the scan showed the thing was in two bits.
Lawson Craddock the year before rode all three weeks with a broken shoulder blade.

The mental strength of going full tilt up the Alpes and Pyrenees mountains day after day is far more than Water polo or Decathlon....just because they sit down don’t think for a second maintain 30mph on the flat is easy either!
Water polo really?

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05 Feb 2020 20:31 #16 by CCU
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Thomas riding the 2013 TdF with a fracture in his pelvis after a crash (Tony Martin was hospitalised in same incident and got on his bike next morning!) tells you all you need to know about Pro Cyclists...

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05 Feb 2020 20:54 #17 by ParcelPete
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CCU wrote: Thomas riding the 2013 TdF with a fracture in his pelvis after a crash (Tony Martin was hospitalised in same incident and got on his bike next morning!) tells you all you need to know about Pro Cyclists...


Yep,those drugs are bloody good.

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05 Feb 2020 20:55 #18 by Dancingbear
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It looks bad enough them going full tilt down the other side of a Alp getting a nice peaceful rest.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!

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06 Feb 2020 12:51 #19 by Corporal Crisp
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Back to Rugby... Heinz in / Youngs out. About right, Youngs was awful v France. Jones is right to drop a 'name' or two to get the message across.
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06 Feb 2020 19:52 #20 by Yorkie Blue
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Don`t think many of the XV covered themselves in glory, Jonny May perhaps one of the better ones. I sometimes wish Eddie Jones would concentrate more on the preparation and coaching of the team and less of the playground quips.

Will have to be up for the game on Saturday, bad enough to be turned over by the French, a defeat by Scotland would be worse.

Ideal scenario - Carlisle United beat Swindon, then into the Rugby Club to see England win.

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21 Feb 2020 17:36 #21 by topstepwhinger
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Is anybody else completely underwhelmed by the standard of rugby in this years six nations.
I know the weather was poor last time out but there has been more long ball stuff than in your average Sunday league footy match. I thought you were meant to use your hands in rugby.
Just proves that we follow the best sport in the world.

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23 Feb 2020 17:39 #22 by twinkletoes
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Twickenham is like a morgue at times. 80,000 must be able to create a far better atmosphere than they do. A couple of choruses of "swing low sweet chariot" and that's your lot.
Take the team on the road and abandon this "home of rugby" crap.
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23 Feb 2020 17:47 #23 by topstepwhinger
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At least it was a slightly better game.....and the crowd (both English and Irish) were more respectful of the kickers than the Welsh and Scots.

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23 Feb 2020 18:23 #24 by Zebby
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topstepwhinger wrote: Is anybody else completely underwhelmed by the standard of rugby in this years six nations.
I know the weather was poor last time out but there has been more long ball stuff than in your average Sunday league footy match. I thought you were meant to use your hands in rugby.
Just proves that we follow the best sport in the world.


I think barring France who are most definitely on the up Shaun Edwards making a big difference and Italy being a mile behind the rest seem to be in transition after world cup England have a lot of injuries and seem undecided about coach and added horrible conditions for flowing rugby actually impossible conditions for precision rugby

Be just and fear not

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23 Feb 2020 21:49 #25 by Yorkie Blue
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twinkletoes wrote: Twickenham is like a morgue at times. 80,000 must be able to create a far better atmosphere than they do. A couple of choruses of "swing low sweet chariot" and that's your lot.
Take the team on the road and abandon this "home of rugby" crap.


Agree twinkletoes, England should have some of their 6 Nations games at the likes of St James` Park, Old Trafford, Etihad, Anfield etc, would be a much better atmosphere. Been to Twickers a few times, very prawn sandwich, prefer the likes of Murrayfield and The Principality Stadium.

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24 Feb 2020 09:42 #26 by sirjimmyglass
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There's very little else on at HQ (lol) apart from the England rugby, there's no way you'll get that touring.

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