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25 Mar 2020 16:09 #1151 by ROOSTER
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Why, still have to be done...

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25 Mar 2020 16:16 #1152 by melbourneblues
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nobbyblue wrote: I think Melbournes is afraid someone might look too closely at his tax returns! :-D


Why should I be afraid? I have a perfectly good bookkeeper and accountant thanks.

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25 Mar 2020 16:18 #1153 by NORTHERNSOUL
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nobbyblue wrote: Imminent news about money for self employed says Martin Lewis. Not sure how they’re gan to work it out. Might be a flat rate for everybody.


Simple answer just reverse any payments PAYE and NI they've made in the last two years then do the maths when its all over.

But as I .ve been arguing on another site i.d say rather than being desperate for cash tomorrow most self-employed have a certain amount of reserves that they would usually keep for slack weeks/ bad weather or to pay for their holiday's etc etc and they just need to know what they will definitely have coming 6 weeks down the line. And if that's not the case they shouldn't really be self-employed

I've spent the last two days firing off e.mails to everyone we owe money too telling them we won't be making any further payments till things return to normal quoting Coronavirus in capital letters and invoking where possible protections that have been granted and the award to the biggest load of shits goes to Scottish Power who replied to our e.mail with one saying they wouldn't be stopping a legal action that's pending for a whole 150 quid.

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25 Mar 2020 16:20 #1154 by yoonited
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I wasn't convinced that Tim Martin was being unreasonable with his staff. It did occur to me that the mainstream media (generally all remainiacs) just continually want to dis him as he was such a vocal supporter of Brexit.
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25 Mar 2020 16:22 #1155 by NORTHERNSOUL
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carwash wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Report from Imperial College London’s COVID-19 Response Team. I think you have to register but its free once you do

ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/03/17/158443912...-report--in-detail-/


Neil Ferguson the mathematical modeller from Imperial who is advising the government is currently giving testimony to the Science and Technology Committee live on Sky News and the BBC Parliament channel. He is displaying the zero charisma and communication skills you would expect from a theoretical physicist. God it's hard to listen to him.


Its the fact Boris and Cummings Did that got us into this mess

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25 Mar 2020 16:27 #1156 by nobbyblue
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Why would you get an Mot before it’s due? It’s a six month extension to your present MOT certificate. Mine for example is now valid until 21st November rather than 21st May.

This going to be the case for the next 12 months.

You don’t need to get a car it’s first MOT until it’s 3 years 6 months old now rather 3 years.

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25 Mar 2020 16:34 #1157 by nobbyblue
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It’s not being deferred.

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25 Mar 2020 16:34 #1158 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Bluedazblue wrote: On The World At One programme on BBC Radio 4 an academic from Bristol University said that if the economy tanks by more than 6%, which it almost certainly will, more people will die as a consequence of that than if the Coronavirus was left to run its natural course.

I only heard part of the interview, but that was the thrust of his argument.


And that was my argument about going for herd immunity accepting the deaths but coming out of it very quickly without trashing the economy but the only upside is that almost all the world is suffering so it will actually be relative but for me, the country we have to be very suspicious of is the Ruskies who are either very good at covering it up .or who are hardly affected at all with all the ramifications that will have in the future.

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25 Mar 2020 17:13 #1159 by yoonited
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Prince Charles is isolating at Balmoral with Covid 19.

Prince Andrew is isolating at Windsor with Jennifer 14.
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25 Mar 2020 17:16 #1160 by thesilentone
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They can easily afford it.

Hourly paid staff cost them around £500,000,000 per year, they've banked nearly a quarter of a Billion in the last 2 years alone.

The man is a dog...........

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25 Mar 2020 17:32 #1161 by HuntingHorn
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nobbyblue wrote: Why would you get an Mot before it’s due? It’s a six month extension to your present MOT certificate. Mine for example is now valid until 21st November rather than 21st May.

This going to be the case for the next 12 months.

You don’t need to get a car it’s first MOT until it’s 3 years 6 months old now rather 3 years.


Way I understand it is that it’s a 6 month rolling extension to your current MOT. Reviewed as and when applicable.
Car should be in decent repair, else leave it at home (although that’s a grey area...)
Once it’s all over and your MOT is expired you’ll need to get it tested and a new certificate.

Only reason I know is my car and work van were booked in for MOT yesterday and the garage closed it’s doors because people wouldn’t keep their distance and we’re following the mechanics round the garage....


Great to see yet another day of a Self employed help package being put off until tomorrow....
Interesting reading other posts. I’m not sure any buffer savings are going to stand up well to this if it drags on for 3-4months or longer without much help.
We have savings as we need to be able to pay thousands out at the drop of a hat to repair machinery but I’m worrying that absolute zero income and people with direct debits set up that are now uncontactable is going to chew through that.
Then there’s the issue of future relationships with suppliers, if you stuff them for payment on things you bought and owe for how do you return to normal once this goes away?
I’ll certainly remember who screws me over during this.
Our landlords initially seemed helpful but they’ve vanished off the earth now, no contact anymore and we didn’t get any decision of an agreement for our rent...
It’s an almighty mess for sure. So much to think about.

It's better to be silent and assumed a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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25 Mar 2020 17:38 #1162 by yoonited
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25 Mar 2020 17:41 #1163 by Markovitch
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Bluedazblue wrote: On The World At One programme on BBC Radio 4 an academic from Bristol University said that if the economy tanks by more than 6%, which it almost certainly will, more people will die as a consequence of that than if the Coronavirus was left to run its natural course.

I only heard part of the interview, but that was the thrust of his argument.


And that was my argument about going for herd immunity accepting the deaths but coming out of it very quickly without trashing the economy but the only upside is that almost all the world is suffering so it will actually be relative but for me, the country we have to be very suspicious of is the Ruskies who are either very good at covering it up .or who are hardly affected at all with all the ramifications that will have in the future.


The Russians are not testing, like us. They released the first batch from isolation Monday, 41 people. They had them on TV and did a phone in thing so people could ask them questions, what the symptoms were, how they got it (if they knew) etc, plus the doctors were there.

The basic chat is that no one under 65 is getting it who doesn't have some other illness already, so OAPs are self-isolating, cancer sufferers etc but work carries on regardless for everyone else.

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25 Mar 2020 18:05 #1164 by CCU
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nobbyblue wrote: I think Melbournes is afraid someone might look too closely at his tax returns! :-D


Why should I be afraid? I have a perfectly good bookkeeper and accountant thanks.


You still want those bags of sand dropped off pal?

Let me know!

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25 Mar 2020 18:15 #1165 by thesilentone
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Hopefully a trend is starting:

Rate of new infections in Italy slows for a fourth day


The death toll from coronavirus in Italy rose by 683 to 7,503 on Tuesday, writes Lorenzo Tondo in Italy.

The rate of new infections slowed for a fourth day, rising by 3,491 compared with 3,612 new cases on Tuesday.

"Civil Protection said 57,521 people in Italy are currently infected with the coronavirus.

Total cases of Covid-19 in Italy (currently infected, deaths and recovered): 74,386"

The rate of new infections slowed for a fourth day, rising by 3,491 compared with 3,612 new cases on Tuesday.

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25 Mar 2020 18:30 #1166 by Dancingbear
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Bluedazblue wrote: On The World At One programme on BBC Radio 4 an academic from Bristol University said that if the economy tanks by more than 6%, which it almost certainly will, more people will die as a consequence of that than if the Coronavirus was left to run its natural course.

I only heard part of the interview, but that was the thrust of his argument.


And that was my argument about going for herd immunity accepting the deaths but coming out of it very quickly without trashing the economy but the only upside is that almost all the world is suffering so it will actually be relative but for me, the country we have to be very suspicious of is the Ruskies who are either very good at covering it up .or who are hardly affected at all with all the ramifications that will have in the future.


The Russians are not testing, like us. They released the first batch from isolation Monday, 41 people. They had them on TV and did a phone in thing so people could ask them questions, what the symptoms were, how they got it (if they knew) etc, plus the doctors were there.

The basic chat is that no one under 65 is getting it who doesn't have some other illness already, so OAPs are self-isolating, cancer sufferers etc but work carries on regardless for everyone else.


Wasn’t them to lads who visited Salisbury was it?

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25 Mar 2020 19:10 #1167 by Urban Designer
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Still no deaths an dnew cases released for England yet!

I stood on the balcony for 2 minutes yesterday night and in that time 3 abulances pasted with lights on.

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25 Mar 2020 19:18 #1168 by ParcelPete
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CCU wrote:

melbourneblues wrote:

nobbyblue wrote: I think Melbournes is afraid someone might look too closely at his tax returns! :-D


Why should I be afraid? I have a perfectly good bookkeeper and accountant thanks.


You still want those bags of sand dropped off pal?

Let me know!

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Bag of sand = Grand.
nudge nudge wink wink.

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25 Mar 2020 19:20 #1169 by Alan
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Urban Designer wrote: Still no deaths an dnew cases released for England yet!

I stood on the balcony for 2 minutes yesterday night and in that time 3 abulances pasted with lights on.


That's the norm on Wigton Road mate.
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25 Mar 2020 19:28 #1170 by Urban Designer
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On all chanels more news on New York and US than England!

Wales has 150 new cases and 5 new deaths today. England has about 20 times the poplulation and much more urban.

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25 Mar 2020 20:01 #1171 by howoldboy
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Urban Designer wrote: On all chanels more news on New York and US than England!

Wales has 150 new cases and 5 new deaths today. England has about 20 times the poplulation and much more urban.


Are you talking to yourself now?
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25 Mar 2020 20:06 #1172 by howoldboy
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nobbyblue wrote: Bush putting 3 trillion into the economy. A trillion is a thousand billion. Mind blowing that.


Which Bush is that Nobby?
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25 Mar 2020 20:36 #1173 by Dancingbear
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howoldboy wrote:

nobbyblue wrote: Bush putting 3 trillion into the economy. A trillion is a thousand billion. Mind blowing that.


Which Bush is that Nobby?


NutBush City limits.

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25 Mar 2020 20:36 #1174 by nobbyblue
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I’m cracking up and we’re only two days in!
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25 Mar 2020 20:56 #1175 by CCU
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25 Mar 2020 21:12 #1176 by topstepwhinger
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Bluedazblue wrote: On The World At One programme on BBC Radio 4 an academic from Bristol University said that if the economy tanks by more than 6%, which it almost certainly will, more people will die as a consequence of that than if the Coronavirus was left to run its natural course.

I only heard part of the interview, but that was the thrust of his argument.


And that was my argument about going for herd immunity accepting the deaths but coming out of it very quickly without trashing the economy but the only upside is that almost all the world is suffering so it will actually be relative but for me, the country we have to be very suspicious of is the Ruskies who are either very good at covering it up .or who are hardly affected at all with all the ramifications that will have in the future.


Exactly, and when did the Russians last put 'members of their public' on TV for the world to see and hear?
They are carrying on whilst at least half of the world's population is in lockdown thereby trashing their economies!
Just saying, like eh.

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25 Mar 2020 22:06 #1177 by kells
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Anyone on here receive the letter from NHS to stay in the house for 12 weeks? Mine came today.

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25 Mar 2020 22:30 #1178 by NORTHERNSOUL
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thesilentone wrote: They can easily afford it.

Hourly paid staff cost them around £500,000,000 per year, they've banked nearly a quarter of a Billion in the last 2 years alone.

The man is a dog...........


You clearly have no knowledge whatsoever of the margins in the pub trade they made 79 million profit last year and we're planning to spend way more than that on new projects, hotels refurbishments and buying back property leases.

Nobody is taking these peoples money away only asking them to take a little pain like the rest of us and wait till the govt pays out.

But if they don't like the bloke they're working for they can as Martin said always piss off and find themselves a better job somewhere else.

I wouldn't work for Wetherspoons for all the tea in China for a number of reasons but if you can't see that having those 40k jobs still there at the end of it isnt worth a few barmen going skint for a month i give up.

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25 Mar 2020 22:54 #1179 by NORTHERNSOUL
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nobbyblue wrote: Why would you get an Mot before it’s due? It’s a six month extension to your present MOT certificate. Mine for example is now valid until 21st November rather than 21st May.

This going to be the case for the next 12 months.

You don’t need to get a car it’s first MOT until it’s 3 years 6 months old now rather 3 years.


Way I understand it is that it’s a 6 month rolling extension to your current MOT. Reviewed as and when applicable.
Car should be in decent repair, else leave it at home (although that’s a grey area...)
Once it’s all over and your MOT is expired you’ll need to get it tested and a new certificate.

Only reason I know is my car and work van were booked in for MOT yesterday and the garage closed it’s doors because people wouldn’t keep their distance and we’re following the mechanics round the garage....


Great to see yet another day of a Self employed help package being put off until tomorrow....
Interesting reading other posts. I’m not sure any buffer savings are going to stand up well to this if it drags on for 3-4months or longer without much help.
We have savings as we need to be able to pay thousands out at the drop of a hat to repair machinery but I’m worrying that absolute zero income and people with direct debits set up that are now uncontactable is going to chew through that.
Then there’s the issue of future relationships with suppliers, if you stuff them for payment on things you bought and owe for how do you return to normal once this goes away?
I’ll certainly remember who screws me over during this.
Our landlords initially seemed helpful but they’ve vanished off the earth now, no contact anymore and we didn’t get any decision of an agreement for our rent...
It’s an almighty mess for sure. So much to think about.


But that's the point you won't have to once it's sorted out they.ll have to do what they've done with the PAYE scheme and backdate it so its not a case of not getting it just being patient using the cash that you have till then.

Well, the first thing I did was cancel all our DD.s and standing orders. advice i.m given is if you e.mail anyone you owe money to put CONAVIRUS in capital letters and tell them you.ll be back in touch in 3 months when you have a better idea when you might be able to start paying them again there's not much they can do about it and most of the replies we.ve had have been standard replies basically just confirming receipt of our e.mails and nothing more. Notable exception as I said being Scottish Power but they're going to get a good shafting once everyone starts bypassing their leccy meters so I guess you can call that Karma.

Basically, if your business has no money coming in you need to ensure it has none going out either and i wouldn't worry too much about your landlords if you stop paying them they.ll just stop paying someone they owe and at the end of that chain is the government and it seems Boris and his mates aren't too bothered about that given the decisions that they've taken.

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25 Mar 2020 23:02 #1180 by Bluedevil
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Just watching the two leaders of our time, Johnson and Trump over the last few days.
And if you like Boris or not, then you have to say he absolutely wipes the floor with that pillock over the pond, Trump is way, way out of his depth.

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25 Mar 2020 23:52 #1181 by Bluedazblue
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Bluedevil wrote: Just watching the two leaders of our time, Johnson and Trump over the last few days.
And if you like Boris or not, then you have to say he absolutely wipes the floor with that pillock over the pond, Trump is way, way out of his depth.


That isn't born out by the polling in the US.

www.newsweek.com/majority-americans-appr...utbreak-poll-1493915

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26 Mar 2020 04:56 #1182 by Markovitch
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Monday they were on TV topstep. Putin announced yesterday that next week is a paid holiday for all workers.

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26 Mar 2020 06:26 #1183 by nobbyblue
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

thesilentone wrote: They can easily afford it.

Hourly paid staff cost them around £500,000,000 per year, they've banked nearly a quarter of a Billion in the last 2 years alone.

The man is a dog...........


You clearly have no knowledge whatsoever of the margins in the pub trade they made 79 million profit last year and we're planning to spend way more than that on new projects, hotels refurbishments and buying back property leases.

Nobody is taking these peoples money away only asking them to take a little pain like the rest of us and wait till the govt pays out.

But if they don't like the bloke they're working for they can as Martin said always piss off and find themselves a better job somewhere else.

I wouldn't work for Wetherspoons for all the tea in China for a number of reasons but if you’re ou can't see that having those 40k jobs still there at the end of it isnt worth a few barmen going skint for a month i give up.


I’ll certainly be giving Witherspoons and Lloyd’s a very wide berth after this is over.

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26 Mar 2020 06:58 #1184 by yoonited
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Markovitch wrote: Putin announced yesterday that next week is a paid holiday for all workers.


Those Russkis will all be........

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26 Mar 2020 07:24 #1185 by carwash
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Bluedazblue wrote:

Bluedevil wrote: Just watching the two leaders of our time, Johnson and Trump over the last few days.
And if you like Boris or not, then you have to say he absolutely wipes the floor with that pillock over the pond, Trump is way, way out of his depth.


That isn't born out by the polling in the US.

www.newsweek.com/majority-americans-appr...utbreak-poll-1493915


I thought the governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo was very impressive yesterday. He has an appalling situation to deal with but showed Trump up yesterday by explaining the situation and how he would deal with it. He could well be a future president.

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26 Mar 2020 08:53 #1186 by Laffy
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Economics and health-debate on Bbc4 just now Marko

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26 Mar 2020 08:57 #1187 by Laffy
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The dilemma facing politicians and statisticians

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26 Mar 2020 09:05 #1188 by mattcufc
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nobbyblue wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

thesilentone wrote: They can easily afford it.

Hourly paid staff cost them around £500,000,000 per year, they've banked nearly a quarter of a Billion in the last 2 years alone.

The man is a dog...........


You clearly have no knowledge whatsoever of the margins in the pub trade they made 79 million profit last year and we're planning to spend way more than that on new projects, hotels refurbishments and buying back property leases.

Nobody is taking these peoples money away only asking them to take a little pain like the rest of us and wait till the govt pays out.

But if they don't like the bloke they're working for they can as Martin said always piss off and find themselves a better job somewhere else.

I wouldn't work for Wetherspoons for all the tea in China for a number of reasons but if you’re ou can't see that having those 40k jobs still there at the end of it isnt worth a few barmen going skint for a month i give up.


I’ll certainly be giving Witherspoons and Lloyd’s a very wide berth after this is over.


The issue was resolved yesterday and Wetherspoons committed to paying all staff as normal pending approval of their plan by the government. Seems to of being going back n forth between the company and the government as to the rules of the scheme and how payments would work which was why Tim rather badly and in the end needlessly suggested payments might be delayed until the government money started to come in.

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26 Mar 2020 09:12 #1189 by nobbyblue
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When you starting at Tesco then Matt? :-D

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26 Mar 2020 09:12 #1190 by nobbyblue
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Cheeky barsteward!

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26 Mar 2020 09:18 #1191 by nobbyblue
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Just shows what he really thinks of his staff. Let’s hope it hits him badly when things get back to normal.

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26 Mar 2020 09:20 #1192 by mattcufc
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Think I’ll just stay safe at home for the duration.
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26 Mar 2020 09:33 #1193 by CCU
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Neck and neck between Tim Martin, Mike Ashley and Richard Branson as to who’s acted the biggest [censored] to their staff so far...

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26 Mar 2020 10:19 #1194 by CarlisleWhite
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Bluedevil wrote: Just watching the two leaders of our time, Johnson and Trump over the last few days.
And if you like Boris or not, then you have to say he absolutely wipes the floor with that pillock over the pond, Trump is way, way out of his depth.

Not exactly a high bar that is it? Trump as a person and speaker is a deadbeat, but if he is judged by what he acheives you can see why he is popular in the US.

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26 Mar 2020 10:23 #1195 by CarlisleWhite
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nobbyblue wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

thesilentone wrote: They can easily afford it.

Hourly paid staff cost them around £500,000,000 per year, they've banked nearly a quarter of a Billion in the last 2 years alone.

The man is a dog...........


You clearly have no knowledge whatsoever of the margins in the pub trade they made 79 million profit last year and we're planning to spend way more than that on new projects, hotels refurbishments and buying back property leases.

Nobody is taking these peoples money away only asking them to take a little pain like the rest of us and wait till the govt pays out.

But if they don't like the bloke they're working for they can as Martin said always piss off and find themselves a better job somewhere else.

I wouldn't work for Wetherspoons for all the tea in China for a number of reasons but if you’re ou can't see that having those 40k jobs still there at the end of it isnt worth a few barmen going skint for a month i give up.


I’ll certainly be giving Witherspoons and Lloyd’s a very wide berth after this is over.

Nobby - we'll all be sanctimonious on these companies for a couple of weeks, then carry on as if nothing has happened.
Cheap booze is cheap booze.
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26 Mar 2020 10:25 #1196 by CarlisleWhite
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Really hope this is not an anomaly, although it probably is, and the trend is down.

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26 Mar 2020 10:28 #1197 by nobbyblue
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

thesilentone wrote: They can easily afford it.

Hourly paid staff cost them around £500,000,000 per year, they've banked nearly a quarter of a Billion in the last 2 years alone.

The man is a dog...........


You clearly have no knowledge whatsoever of the margins in the pub trade they made 79 million profit last year and we're planning to spend way more than that on new projects, hotels refurbishments and buying back property leases.

Nobody is taking these peoples money away only asking them to take a little pain like the rest of us and wait till the govt pays out.

But if they don't like the bloke they're working for they can as Martin said always piss off and find themselves a better job somewhere else.

I wouldn't work for Wetherspoons for all the tea in China for a number of reasons but if you’re ou can't see that having those 40k jobs still there at the end of it isnt worth a few barmen going skint for a month i give up.


I’ll certainly be giving Witherspoons and Lloyd’s a very wide berth after this is over.

Nobby - we'll all be sanctimonious on these companies for a couple of weeks, then carry on as if nothing has happened.
Cheap booze is cheap booze.


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26 Mar 2020 10:30 #1198 by markredfox73
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The horsemen are [censored] to many of their customers..have been for many moons ...but folk still go back to BP regardless ..so pointless folk twining about Ashley etc..

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26 Mar 2020 10:45 #1199 by Waltero
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I'll certainly be going back to Lloyds it's nice to have a good choice of ales not your usual Smith's and Fosters crap

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26 Mar 2020 10:59 #1200 by thesilentone
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

thesilentone wrote: They can easily afford it.

Hourly paid staff cost them around £500,000,000 per year, they've banked nearly a quarter of a Billion in the last 2 years alone.

The man is a dog...........


You clearly have no knowledge whatsoever of the margins in the pub trade they made 79 million profit last year and we're planning to spend way more than that on new projects, hotels refurbishments and buying back property leases.

Nobody is taking these peoples money away only asking them to take a little pain like the rest of us and wait till the govt pays out.

But if they don't like the bloke they're working for they can as Martin said always piss off and find themselves a better job somewhere else.

I wouldn't work for Wetherspoons for all the tea in China for a number of reasons but if you can't see that having those 40k jobs still there at the end of it isnt worth a few barmen going skint for a month i give up.


.........and you clearly have no idea how to read a balance sheet, sine when did wages and salaries come off after corporation tax ????

The Government had already made the announcement about paying 80% of the wages, he wouldn't put his hand in his pocket for a few weeks, that's all.

These actions have a value and consequences, and if as is rumoured more redundancies come from our local philanthropist's Company, it will be the beginning of the end for them.

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