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12 Oct 2019 18:51 #1 by paddockite
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Anyone else see Nixon, Jenkins, Pattison grinning, smirking and in Nixons case laughing at half time today, at the booing and people calling them out.

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12 Oct 2019 18:59 #2 by Laffy
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Maybe this is a cunning plan-run the Club into the ground so that the fans get desperate and offer to buy them out with real money?

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12 Oct 2019 19:07 #3 by Bluedazblue
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paddockite wrote: Anyone else see Nixon, Jenkins, Pattison grinning, smirking and in Nixons case laughing at half time today, at the booing and people calling them out.


It's called putting on a brave face. It proves they're rattled.

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12 Oct 2019 19:13 #4 by Mullen103
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Laffy wrote: Maybe this is a cunning plan-run the Club into the ground so that the fans get desperate and offer to buy them out with real money?

£2 ?

At least we’re not Stockport

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12 Oct 2019 19:17 #5 by Mush
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paddockite wrote: Anyone else see Nixon, Jenkins, Pattison grinning, smirking and in Nixons case laughing at half time today, at the booing and people calling them out.


Mark The Red Fox would of taken the smirk of their faces if he was in the paddock, bunch of shits!

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12 Oct 2019 19:20 #6 by Laffy
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I said a long while ago they would have to put more money in have any chance of offloading this.I underestimated it!!

Can you imagine owing £2m plus under PGs and not able to give it away.That is nothing to smile about
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12 Oct 2019 19:25 - 12 Oct 2019 19:26 #7 by Mullen103
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Laffy wrote: I said a long while ago they would have to put more money in have any chance of offloading this.I underestimated it!!

Can you imagine owing £2m plus under PGs and not able to give it away.That is nothing to smile about


Yep, agree!

I’m pretty sure Nixon didn’t think he’d have to stump up. It’ll be quite funny (especially the people involved)if it wasn’t the fact it’s the football club you’ve been brought up with and supported.

I don’t see a way out the mess unless all the debts written off, someone wins euro millions or we unearth the next Messi and Ronaldo - neithers gonna happen

At least we’re not Stockport
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12 Oct 2019 19:41 - 12 Oct 2019 19:47 #8 by Kessler
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The BOD attitude is absolutely disgraceful. They have pushed thousands of fans away, and are now treating the remaining ones with utter contempt.

Mush wrote: Mark The Red Fox would of taken the smirk of their faces if he was in the paddock, bunch of shits!


The MRF incident shows how completely unwilling the directors are to listen to fans criticism despite all their claims to the contrary.
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12 Oct 2019 19:42 #9 by United63
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To be honest I thought Jenkins looked unhappy at the end and so he should after that whats needed is urgent action and quickly

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12 Oct 2019 19:49 #10 by musher441
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United63 wrote: To be honest I thought Jenkins looked unhappy at the end and so he should after that whats needed is urgent action and quickly


He's probably realising he's going to have to shell out and pay up Pressley's contract to get rid of him.

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12 Oct 2019 19:52 #11 by heilkmoon
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paddockite wrote: Anyone else see Nixon, Jenkins, Pattison grinning, smirking and in Nixons case laughing at half time today, at the booing and people calling them out.


Before going off to hobnob with the directors of the paedo club. Disgraceful.

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12 Oct 2019 19:53 #12 by Mush
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paddockite wrote: Anyone else see Nixon, Jenkins, Pattison grinning, smirking and in Nixons case laughing at half time today, at the booing and people calling them out.


Before going off to hobnob with the directors of the paedo club. Disgraceful.


Oh yeah spill.

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12 Oct 2019 20:55 #13 by markredfox73
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Yep thats true i would not let those arrogant owners get away with a smug attitude .i would do exactly the same as i did the last time i was there

Problem is apathy reigns and nobody there now can be arsed to challenge and try humiliate them anymore

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12 Oct 2019 20:59 #14 by Reopen The St Nich
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There is a race night to look forward too I suppose !!
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12 Oct 2019 21:08 - 12 Oct 2019 21:13 #15 by Kessler
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markredfox73 wrote: Problem is apathy reigns and nobody there now can be arsed to challenge and try humiliate them anymore


The apathy really annoys me. I see people moaning on here but they still go back every week, giving money to those three clowns. The few times people have held a protest against the board hardly anybody could be arsed showing up to it. This plays right into the BOD's hands, it lets them claim that only a few fans are unhappy with them.
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12 Oct 2019 21:28 #16 by thetashkentterror
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United63 wrote: To be honest I thought Jenkins looked unhappy at the end and so he should after that whats needed is urgent action and quickly


Probably just blame the referee in his programme notes. Again.
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12 Oct 2019 22:01 #17 by bruntonpete
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The silence from NC, DH, JN, EWM and others is deafening. Couldn't shut DH up at the start of the season but where is he now?
Clibbens regular top corridor updates seem to have gone AWOL too.

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13 Oct 2019 03:12 #18 by Lakelandterrier
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I had a good go at Nixon and was smurked at, did'nt look good for Rick Parry who was there, i had a go at nixon again at full time. Throughout the game i had a go.
At the end of the game some one had a go at Jenkins, and he just looked and said to another director " you cant understand some people these days".

We are going back to dismal pre Knighton days when Jenkins made his first hash of it.

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13 Oct 2019 11:31 #19 by borderterrier
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If AJ sacks Pressley and appointed Klopp he would drag him down to the depths. The fault lies firmly and squarely with the BOD. If you have them 20 million to sort the club out they would squander it. They are clearly incompetent.
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13 Oct 2019 12:21 #20 by musher441
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Lakelandterrier wrote: I had a good go at Nixon and was smurked at, did'nt look good for Rick Parry who was there, i had a go at nixon again at full time. Throughout the game i had a go.
At the end of the game some one had a go at Jenkins, and he just looked and said to another director " you cant understand some people these days".

We are going back to dismal pre Knighton days when Jenkins made his first hash of it.


Everything Lee has said in this post is basically the reason I stopped attending home games.
I haven't been to BP for over 2 years now. ( v Exeter October 2017)
Yet people will read your post Lee, and still happily hand over more cash on Tuesday night, then the next home game, then the next, and so on.
How people still go while these sh1thouses laugh at you is beyond me.
Stop going. Go to away games only. Like I do.
Pick and choose the games you go to, and enjoy a day out.
It's far more pleasurable having a day on the lash, and far better for your blood pressure.
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13 Oct 2019 12:24 #21 by thesilentone
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EWM now hold the cards, unless there are conditions to calling in the loan.

The Three Musketeers have now't to lose, once you've exhausted all credit lines and debt channels there is only one course of action left.

No assets. no cash and no operating income surplus means the inevitable.

So EWM will be able to refer to a statement by the late J Gormly.

"when you've got them by the balls, there hearts and minds will follow"

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13 Oct 2019 12:36 #22 by Urban Designer
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Why would EWM play a slow tactical game? If they really wanted control they could have done it in a day.

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13 Oct 2019 12:38 #23 by CCU
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Correct. The sooner folk realise there is no ‘end game’ in regards an EWM takeover the better.

Merely complicit with the BoD by facilitating a credit line for them!

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

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13 Oct 2019 12:39 #24 by aberdeenblue28
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Oh Phillip day why won’t you pay to take all our pain away.
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13 Oct 2019 12:41 #25 by BlueAl
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In other words, part of the problem and definitely not part of the solution.
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13 Oct 2019 12:42 #26 by Laffy
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I’vs come to the conclusion that the stakeholders, and I include Jim and Billy, are trapped by EWM who have no desire to own the football club.They are the firewall who protect EWM, as the bank, from any grief.Couple that with the PGs and you are basically cornered.

They claimed I was dubious, had no money blah blah-well since 2015, I have done alright for myself and the guys around me.Hyperdrive, which I chair, and as the second largest shareholder, is now one of the fastest tech companies in the UK, and I raised £7m without any difficulty for the company without difficulty earlier this year.

Meanwhile, the Club was taken to the brink by pure incompetence and had to beg EWM for a loan backed by PGs and despite this, the journey to the bottom of the pile goes on.

The Club is desperate for fresh faces, fresh ideas, just like my mate David Allen said all those years ago-but nothing has changed other than they have dug a bigger hole to climb out of.

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13 Oct 2019 12:45 #27 by musher441
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CCU wrote: Correct. The sooner folk realise there is no ‘end game’ in regards an EWM takeover the better.

Merely complicit with the BoD by facilitating a credit line for them!


Absolutely bang on.
EWM gave our board a lifeline, allowing the fab 3 to stay on and enjoy the grandeur of it all without the worry of financing things.
Nixon is now happy as a pig in sh1t because he has no crap to deal with and Clibbens taking the flak for him. He's the winner in all of this and laughing at us all.
If EWM had left the club alone the fab 3 would have been gone early last season.
EWM are merely prolonging the agony.
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13 Oct 2019 12:56 #28 by Mush
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Laffy wrote: I’vs come to the conclusion that the stakeholders, and I include Jim and Billy, are trapped by EWM who have no desire to own the football club.They are the firewall who protect EWM, as the bank, from any grief.Couple that with the PGs and you are basically cornered.

They claimed I was dubious, had no money blah blah-well since 2015, I have done alright for myself and the guys around me.Hyperdrive, which I chair, and as the second largest shareholder, is now one of the fastest tech companies in the UK, and I raised £7m without any difficulty for the company without difficulty earlier this year.

Meanwhile, the Club was taken to the brink by pure incompetence and had to beg EWM for a loan backed by PGs and despite this, the journey to the bottom of the pile goes on.

The Club is desperate for fresh faces, fresh ideas, just like my mate David Allen said all those years ago-but nothing has changed other than they have dug a bigger hole to climb out of.


Would you consider swallowing your pride and put in a new proposal?

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13 Oct 2019 12:58 #29 by Laffy
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I would do exactly the same as before but all would have to go-and I mean all, including the worthless debt

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13 Oct 2019 13:00 #30 by Lakelandterrier
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Laffy wrote: I’vs come to the conclusion that the stakeholders, and I include Jim and Billy, are trapped by EWM who have no desire to own the football club.They are the firewall who protect EWM, as the bank, from any grief.Couple that with the PGs and you are basically cornered.

They claimed I was dubious, had no money blah blah-well since 2015, I have done alright for myself and the guys around me.Hyperdrive, which I chair, and as the second largest shareholder, is now one of the fastest tech companies in the UK, and I raised £7m without any difficulty for the company without difficulty earlier this year.

Meanwhile, the Club was taken to the brink by pure incompetence and had to beg EWM for a loan backed by PGs and despite this, the journey to the bottom of the pile goes on.

The Club is desperate for fresh faces, fresh ideas, just like my mate David Allen said all those years ago-but nothing has changed other than they have dug a bigger hole to climb out of.


Would you consider swallowing your pride and put in a new proposal?



A Lapping Group with some keen new local investment and Big Fred back might just get the present regime out..

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13 Oct 2019 13:04 #31 by Laffy
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And the Trust would have to demonstrate some value to their position-for them to decide how they do that given their equity is worthless just now
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13 Oct 2019 13:19 #32 by Lakelandterrier
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Laffy wrote: And the Trust would have to demonstrate some value to their position-for them to decide how they do that given their equity is worthless just now



As CUOSC member i would encourage them to take action to back you. They have to back a viable proposal for the club's future.

Here to help, in any way.

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13 Oct 2019 13:54 #33 by Mullen103
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Laffy wrote: I would do exactly the same as before but all would have to go-and I mean all, including the worthless debt


You’re the only hope really - I can’t see anyone wanting to do anything.

But it’ll mean compromise, on the current owners side debt write off, clean slate and for then to bugger off. I see the chance of that happening as 0.001%

The problem is it’s there’s and as long as EWM prop them up and they have the money to put in if/when in AJs and JNs case then there’ll carry on regardless.

Narcissistic and stubbornness.

At least we’re not Stockport
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13 Oct 2019 14:57 #34 by Mush
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Laffy wrote: I would do exactly the same as before but all would have to go-and I mean all, including the worthless debt


please get proposing.

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13 Oct 2019 15:20 #35 by paddockite
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Laffy wrote: I would do exactly the same as before but all would have to go-and I mean all, including the worthless debt


Get it going again! Get us fans on here behind you and get some momentum on a campaign!

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13 Oct 2019 15:25 #36 by nomadblue2
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Yes Laffy sure we could do a fund raising thing as fans and come on board. Give it another go please.

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13 Oct 2019 15:44 #37 by Laffy
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I’m afraid there is no compromising at my end.

-all directors resign and I mean all

-all existing equity and debt is forgiven in a tax efficient way and I mean all

Rest of the deal would be pretty much same as before.No directorship for life, nobody has more than 25pc of the equity, chairman from local community and board comprised of local investors.Trust would need to represent all fan base or no equity, limited to 10pc for free but can invest for up to 25pc with hard cash.

Holdings Board extinguished-one company going forwards called 1921.

Simple and effective-no drama
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13 Oct 2019 15:50 #38 by cocaineblues
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Put it forward to them then. We all know that none of them have the means to access the internet and see your proposal on here.

At least we're not Mullen.

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13 Oct 2019 15:58 - 13 Oct 2019 16:07 #39 by Mullen103
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cocaineblues wrote: Put it forward to them then. We all know that none of them have the means to access the internet and see your proposal on here.


JN reads it - he complained to me about Laffy always being on here and wondering if he had a job!

If a public proposal went in then they’d have to respond. The problem last time was Laffy gave them too much respect, did what they wanted and kept it quiet and JN went lieing on radio saying they was no offer. I’m sure JN never wanted it to come out and wanted it brushed aside.

Like Courtney did with Knighton, he got the supporters onside and Knighton stuck in a corner. The same will need to be done again to oust this bunch.

At least we’re not Stockport
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13 Oct 2019 16:02 #40 by triskelionblue
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borderterrier wrote: If AJ sacks Pressley and appointed Klopp he would drag him down to the depths. The fault lies firmly and squarely with the BOD. If you have them 20 million to sort the club out they would squander it. They are clearly incompetent.


Agree look at where we were when they took over and look how far they have dragged us down to
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13 Oct 2019 16:02 #41 by Laffy
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I do have a job-basically managing businesses which employ quality managers.

Maybe I’m not the answer in terms of the promoter but I think all know the solution I put forward is the right one for the Club and city
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13 Oct 2019 16:06 #42 by Mullen103
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Laffy wrote: I do have a job-basically managing businesses which employ quality managers.

Maybe I’m not the answer in terms of the promoter but I think all know the solution I put forward is the right one for the Club and city


I did laugh at him for that.

Agree your proposal was common sense - problem was the other party you were dealing with that couldn’t give it up.

JN confuses effort with success, a phrase you keep saying. I’m convinced there hard workers but hard workers at nothingness and being incompetent.

At least we’re not Stockport

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13 Oct 2019 16:09 #43 by seesaw50
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cocaineblues wrote: Put it forward to them then. We all know that none of them have the means to access the internet and see your proposal on here.


Why not bypass the "Board" and contact EMW direct.....or at least their man on The Board.
The old guard dont count anymore

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13 Oct 2019 16:09 #44 by paddockite
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Laffy wrote: I do have a job-basically managing businesses which employ quality managers.

Maybe I’m not the answer in terms of the promoter but I think all know the solution I put forward is the right one for the Club and city


With a backing of support on here, and in the local community would you be willing to go back in?

I agree with Mullen, go public, put the shitters up them.
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13 Oct 2019 16:11 #45 by Lakelandterrier
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Going public is the only way.

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13 Oct 2019 16:22 #46 by Laffy
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The problem is the PGs-they would need to persuade EWM to let them off before I engaged.

I want to be 100pc clear-no debt, no original equity, new Board, no hangers on and a new constitution which reflects the 21st century -and to allay any fears, a restrictive covenant over BP so there are no misunderstandings or allegations about asset stripping from those who know who they are.
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13 Oct 2019 16:23 - 13 Oct 2019 16:26 #47 by seesaw50
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I've always steered away from criticising the board and even the new regime as it is the case the club needs to exist within its means but now we see the result of that. The clear out has been a mistake, the choice of SP appears to have been a mistake ..yesterday was the last straw, particularly the post match, how much time can he be allowed.
If a further clear out upstairs could be achieved there'd be plenty behind you laffy

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13 Oct 2019 16:30 #48 by borderterrier
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Laffy. Sadly you have forgotten something
3 BANNING ORDERS.....
AJ. JN. SP. Nener to darken the door ever again. There damage inflicted on CUFC should never be forgotten and punished accordingly.

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13 Oct 2019 16:33 #49 by seesaw50
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These Personal Guarantees...can you explain laffy

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13 Oct 2019 16:36 #50 by Mullen103
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seesaw50 wrote: I've always steered away from criticising the board and even the new regime as it is the case the club needs to exist within its means but now we see the result of that. The clear out has been a mistake, the choice of SP appears to have been a mistake ..yesterday was the last straw, particularly the post match, how much time can he be allowed.
If a further clear out upstairs could be achieved there'd be plenty behind you laffy


Welcome aboard!

At least we’re not Stockport
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