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What do we think, will he be the subject of a bid in January?

If so whats he worth, what would he go for?

I'll start

1. Yes
2. Worth - 1m
3. Sell 250k with sell on clauses
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Ye and while all the scouts are waiting to watch him in Cardiff his mam sent him to Wigton CO-OP for a pint of milk
  1. 05-01-2020 15:24
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Aye he comes across as a very level headed lad. As long as them robbin [censored] at Leeds don't get their hands on him.

Luckily they couldn't afford him!
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Southampton and Newcastle mentioned too on the BBC Football Gossip Page today:

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Southampton would be a great move. Think how much we'd get from the sell on clause when Liverpool pay over the odds for him a couple of years later.
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Considering you’re the wrong side of 50, overweight and wear glasses I don’t think you will be getting that option anytime soon.
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£750k is pitiful when you have so many big, wealthy clubs interested.
Rangers paid us £600k for Paul Reid and that was 20 years ago - I don’t recall anything like the same level of interest in him.
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To be fair to KC the youth team were not good enough to break through in KC's reign, plus we had a stronger squad.



Its funny, all these people that apparently "hated" him (plenty rumours on here from people "in the know";) when he worked here, I have never seen the staff around the ground so happy to see him and his staff and make an effort to see him when they were up here the other week.

Either KC was a nightmare, or the load of people I seen go to see him are s*** houses.

They would take him back I guarantee that! But, there is no agenda against SP , so we don't hear this side.


Why don’t you name them Lummy otherwise you insinuating this every time makes you as bad as them.
For the record I was sad to see KC go, but looking back we couldn’t sustain the kind of spending he was doing, will always be grateful for him keeping us up but fell short at the end imo.


No bother mate, was it Blubry, CCU, few others really did not like him.

I agree, he was bloody frustrating, but there was an agenda I thought by a few on here.

CCU, I get on with you, but if KC was running the team like it is now, there would be more coming out.

Blubry, you didn’t like him either, but the stick he got, fair enough, but why isn’t SP getting it?

I don’t want SP to get it, but the same stuff goes on now about him like KC, why not the jabs now?

I will never hide behind what I say, and I do respect everyone’s opinion, but I will say what I think, and that’s the beauty of it all, we are all in this together, we all care.

I thought Kav was great! That’s how much I know ;)
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Not sure if it been mentioned on this thread and I can’t be bothered to look back, but Jarads agent is David Reeves our legendary ex centre forward.


‘Legends’ don’t leave for Preston...
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Premier League clubs probably close to their home and still living with their parents.

How many 17 year old move independently to the south from Carlisle? You could probably count them on one hand. Even the minority who actually leave Carlisle to go to University mostly go to Glasgow, Newcastle, Lancaster and Manchester.


If at 17 I was offered a hefty signing on fee and 5-10k a week over five years then I would have walked to whichever club wanted me.

Once you learn that when you are within the four walls of your home then you could be anywhere.
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The reason why he was given an international cap is irrelevant, the fact was he was a full international which will have played a part in any tribunal’s decision.

For what it’s worth I get the feeling you’ve made your last statement up anyway. First time he was called up was for a qualifier which would have tied him to Wales, but he didn’t play. He then missed out on the next 4 qualifiers before making his debut in a friendly a month later, in fact it was over a year from his first call-up before he played a competitive fixture for Wales. Hardly the actions of a country picking someone just to tie him down!
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Liverpool Echo said £750k + add-ons on Monday night.


Thats a good deal,Monday night is not far off.
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I see Birmingham City have retired the number 22 shirt after they sold a young player to a bigger club. Think we should have a word and get Jarrad’s old number retired?


That felt really tinpot to me. We haven't retired so many legend's numbers, why would we for him? It's great that he's doing so well but retiring numbers of players who leave us to achieve something doesn't exactly feel like a club who are looking up in the world.
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If we got decent money for him i would trust Elvis to find a couple of decent players. Then screw them up
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I will hold my hand up I didn't think a great deal of Curle as a manager. in regards to getting a team up I don't think he's good enough.He is very capable for getting limited teams fighting a relegation battle as he has proved however the rotation policy was a bit of a joke the likes of Wyke and Devitt in and out of team I think he squandered money and some of his signings seemed panic signings

Nice bloke just not got the nouse for promotion chasing teams imo although be very pleased for him if he gets a promotion on his Cv ..


On a few occasions he pulled someone off at half time.


I was quite happy with an orange when I played as a lad but everybody to their own I suppose.
  1. 08-11-2019 15:21
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Don't do Twitter but thanks for the info

Sorry to go off topic but how many people use twitter here?

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In reply to West Cumbria Utd fan. Mods this probably needs a separate thread. A lot of older people seem to think you need to be on twitter to use it. I get by perfectly well using John Colman's twitter page like any other website and clicking on CCU's twitter links without signing up.
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What really pisses me off most about all this is how the Premier League Clubs are trying to get young players from L1/2 for peanuts, money that should help small clubs like ours survive for a few more years. Yet they think nothing of spunking millions on bang average players from all over the world and millions on sacking managers after a couple of defeats.
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If it is true that we're getting £1.5m (half in instalments) plus add-ons and a sell-on clause then I think that's a really good deal for all involved. As much as anything it's great to see one of our young players go on to a big Premier League club which is overshadowed by current ongoings. Best of luck to Jarrad. I'm looking forward to his last minute header for England against Germany in the 2026 World Cup final.
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Hypothetical question...

If we played Everton in the lendlease at Brunton Park next seas on and he was in the team would you go down to watch him play?

If I was in Carlisle I probably would.

Personally think he will be on loan to a League 1/ Championship side next season.



Well I didn’t go and watch him when he was playing for Carlisle in that fraudulent trophy so I’m not exactly going to go and watch him play for someone else in it.
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Totally expected and another example of the state of football today. He only played 11 games. McCarron similar? They looked good but had barely started before they were whipped away from us to someone's reserves for a year.
I've no doubt at least JB will go on to do well but as usual we are kept in the dark and made to feel like we don't matter. Again.
Beech knew nothing. Yeah, whatever. Undisclosed? Yeah, whatever. Club building for the future? Yeah, whatever. EWM give a shit? Whatever. New ground. Whatever. Signs of improvement.... green shoots.... progress... investment... forward thinking... No Communication again!!!! etc etc etc...f'off!

Go well jarrad. What a missed opportunity for cufc. Again.


No league 2 club would turn down that kind if money. Not sure what you mean by a missed opportunity.


I meant missed opportunity by the club again to engage with the fans and share their vision and plans. Yes, we were going to lose and of course I don't blame the lad going. My point was more about the lack of communication from the club. Everything we get from them is negative. The club cashed in on a prized asset, we sell other youngsters with great potential so how do the club respond and give us all a reason to believe again? Nowt. Only a depressing interview from our manager.. sorry, head coach, telling us all about how we have no money, hard to attract players, losing out on lots of targets etc.
All we can dream of is a change at the top. Without one, the club just plod on making the same mistakes.

On another note, on the Everton forum, the signing hardly registers. They aren't excited at all by him, many of them think he will be just lost in their system while a few others just use the thread to slag off cumbrians and our accents! Oh, the irony.
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This time last year I was watching him with his grandma and grandad at the friendly against Penrith he was so happy and very excited just to be playing in that game what a difference a year makes
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I see Birmingham City have retired the number 22 shirt after they sold a young player to a bigger club. Think we should have a word and get Jarrad’s old number retired?


That felt really tinpot to me. We haven't retired so many legend's numbers, why would we for him? It's great that he's doing so well but retiring numbers of players who leave us to achieve something doesn't exactly feel like a club who are looking up in the world.


Retiring shirt numbers is a massive pile of American shite. Also incredibly short-sighted. In years to come players will be running around with four or five digits on their backs, or binary codes.
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The level of team supposedly keeping tabs on him, we’re talking top end PL, they can start at £5m then we’ll talk.

I’m serious too...


1 million for Jenkins.
150k for Nixon.
50k for Pattison.
If they all resign i could live with that.
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For a 17 year old playing in a poor team he has done amazingly well. The potential is obvious. He is under contract beyond the end of the season (I think) so that should add to his value. Let the bidding war commence.


Undisclosed fee (30k + some old bibs for training)
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The Ethan Ampadu fee is the yardstick here.

So "a fee worth £2.5 million".

Ampadu only played a handful of times for Exeter, potentially Branthwaite will have more first team appearances by January than Ampadu managed in his career at Exeter.
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The level of team supposedly keeping tabs on him, we’re talking top end PL, they can start at £5m then we’ll talk.

I’m serious too...


Me too. I'm fed up of seeing the likes of Exeter, Peterborough and others get millions for their young players while our board think they are doing a great job by selling off ours for low 6 figure fees after hardly any games.

If clubs don't think he's worth millions now, keep him and develop him in the first team until someone does value him at that.

Of course I fully expect him to be sold in january for an undisclosed rumoured 250k after just a handful of appearances for us. It's what we do.
  1. 05-11-2019 15:59
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Similar deal to us getting first refusal on those Leeds juniors


Don't forget all those talented players at Park View, too.
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That’s bad news, who was it that died?
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all 3 of them.
  1. 18-11-2019 20:59
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Must be well excited the lad - imagine at his age going to sleep at night thinking that firstly there is a good chance of starting at the weekend, the gate will be swelled with scouts going to see him and the clubs interested in signing him are clubs at the top and of high pedigree.

The things that dreams are made of :)
  1. 20-11-2019 20:38
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Agreed. £10m for a forward so we’ll say £5m for our future England Captain...
  1. 21-11-2019 11:19
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Too busy looking in the mirror!
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Who wouldn't want to go to Celtic?


Only club I would refuse to play for.
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£750k plus add ons is the RC rumour


If that is the case then I would continue to laugh at Everton until they stuck another million onto the initial fee - why not as we hold all the cards?
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If it was £750k then DH should quit considering we were supposedly saying a minimum of £2m...
  1. 26-12-2019 19:59
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Surely 750k isn't the highest bid in a bidding war?

Yes we want the add ons as well but the initial fee is paltry and if this is a done deal then whoever made the decision should walk.

Wasn't Holdsworth brought in to save us money? All we have seen so far is poor management from all behind the scenes that has cost us money if anything.
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Having no Premier League academy training might be a plus I would think.
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If I had a son who was a decent player I would advise him to get at least a couple of seasons at this level to get a good grounding in the rough and tumble of the game playing real football and not signing for one of the big clubs to get buried in their U23 side then most likely being ditched a few years down the line.
From the clubs point of view it would give them a chance of getting a much bigger fee and allow the club to benefit from their ability.
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The club have been very lucky with these young players , two years ago Mcarron was playing for upperby, branthwaite for abbeytown and maybe only 3-5 years ago birch and Galloway were playing for Warwick wanderers . The club lost the best player they had to Newcastle but I’m not sure if we get any money from him ? Watched all the Carlisle lads play regularly as they were same year as my son , brilliant to see them all and it’s down to hard work and determination, Mcarrons dad used to drive him here from Appleby way every training and game so he was playing at a decent level .fair play like
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Didn't they have to put £100k in each recently? I bet that made them splutter. Nixon will be desperate for his money back.


If i remember right Nixon put in 90k,no mention of Patty putting anything in.
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They haven’t announced anything.
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I don't think he was injured either. Club protecting the incoming cash, so I kind of understand it.
Shame that we've offloaded some real talent this season - you only have to look at Crewe to see the benefit of investing in youth, rather than bringing in has beens who ain't playing for the shirt any more, but their last decent wage packet.


Our investment in youth is just a cash cow for the Custodians formerly known as The Temporary Custodians it's nothing to do with developing a team like Crewe...
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Can anyone tell me On what basis would Jarrod be worth 2 million ??
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The one thing I would let Nixon do is negotiate this deal.He also has a vested interest in getting the best price though probably conflicted by wanting more up front.

I do think we are in danger of getting carried away with values.He’s a young lad playing in a poor team, small squad and 4 places from the trapdoor-goals against figure is horrible.Is he that good and how can we tell?

Feels a bit early to me but the BOD need cash
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You aren’t seriously saying he’s better than Beardsley,Janson or Delap

I remember seeing PB-magical
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You aren’t seriously saying he’s better than Beardsley,Janson or Delap

I remember seeing PB-magical


Phil Bonnyman was magical.
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The reason why he was given an international cap is irrelevant, the fact was he was a full international which will have played a part in any tribunal’s decision.

For what it’s worth I get the feeling you’ve made your last statement up anyway. First time he was called up was for a qualifier which would have tied him to Wales, but he didn’t play. He then missed out on the next 4 qualifiers before making his debut in a friendly a month later, in fact it was over a year from his first call-up before he played a competitive fixture for Wales. Hardly the actions of a country picking someone just to tie him down!

Think your point actually proves me more , what the point of having a player in your squad who's not good enough yet for the first team , They were giving him a carrot on the end of the stick.

Advantage of living were I do , Generally my local has some people who know football far better than me and any one on here but Lummy.


So first they picked him to stop him playing for anyone else and now they picked him to give him a carrot on the end of a stick? Make your mind up, which is it?!

If they were picking him to stop him playing for anyone else they’d give him a competitive cap ASAP. The fact they didn’t give him one for over a year from his first call-up is pretty damning with regards your theory.

Like I said however, it’s irrelevant why he was called up.
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Well at the moment it's all about opinions... my opinion is that you can't compare a 17 year old winger with a 17 year old centre half.
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I see RB Leipzig are interested now as well. It must be an amazing feeling as a 17 year old lad from Wigton to have pretty much every top team in the country interested in you and others from across top leagues in Europe. Fees aside, what a choice for him to have - I can't think of many others who've attracted such high-profile interest while at the club. It's great for us as a club and for those in the youth set-up. Come here, work hard and get into the first team, and this is where you could end up.
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Be cheaper at Lidl.
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Be cheaper at Lidl.


Cheaper and exactly the same milk- insider info.
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