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What do we think, will he be the subject of a bid in January?

If so whats he worth, what would he go for?

I'll start

1. Yes
2. Worth - 1m
3. Sell 250k with sell on clauses
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£750k is an absolute snip from Everton’s point of view.

From Branthwaites point of view he’ll be going from probably £400 a week to £4000. Hard to turn down!

Got told the (alledged) McCarron figures yesterday, and they are 5 times what Carlisle offered him, so the proportions are probably right, but if the Carlisle offer value was right can't see Branthwaite being on £400 a week.

Less than £400 from what I've heard , From his family members.

Branthwaite or McCarron?
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Just so happens my bro-in-law is the chief Everton reporter for the Liverpool Echo. I’ve messages him.
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Just so happens my bro-in-law is the chief Everton reporter for the Liverpool Echo. I’ve messages him.


Phil Kirkbride?
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£750k is an absolute snip from Everton’s point of view.

From Branthwaites point of view he’ll be going from probably £400 a week to £4000. Hard to turn down!

Got told the (alledged) McCarron figures yesterday, and they are 5 times what Carlisle offered him, so the proportions are probably right, but if the Carlisle offer value was right can't see Branthwaite being on £400 a week.

Less than £400 from what I've heard , From his family members.

Branthwaite or McCarron?

Branthwaite
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£750k is an absolute snip from Everton’s point of view.

From Branthwaites point of view he’ll be going from probably £400 a week to £4000. Hard to turn down!

Got told the (alledged) McCarron figures yesterday, and they are 5 times what Carlisle offered him, so the proportions are probably right, but if the Carlisle offer value was right can't see Branthwaite being on £400 a week.

Less than £400 from what I've heard , From his family members.

Branthwaite or McCarron?

Branthwaite

Still a lot more than McCarron offered by the sound of it.
  1. 27-12-2019 15:07
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£750k is pitiful when you have so many big, wealthy clubs interested.
Rangers paid us £600k for Paul Reid and that was 20 years ago - I don’t recall anything like the same level of interest in him.


This board of directors are still living 20 or even 30 years in the past, so i can see why they think this is a great deal.

They probably think the world record transfer fee is about £5 million.
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Without checking, I’m sure Exeter got about 2.5 to 3 million for Ampadu from Chelsea a few years ago. He was the same age, experience and league as Branthwaite.

To be honest when I heard Man City, Arsenal, Celtic, Everton etc mentioned for Branthwaite I thought we’d get similar money, definitely 7 figures. Did not think for one second we wouldn’t even get a million.
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Do people think that the recent glut of youngsters being signed by bigger clubs mean the youth policy has suddenly blossomed, or is it that the standard of the first team players is giving them more chances.
I was thinking the latter at first, but maybe not for three to come through at once.
Or maybe just a cyclical thing, like Delap, Jansen etc.
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Still think a bidding war will kick in. I heard from a good source 2 weeks ago that Sheff Utd had offered 1.2million. Maybe Everton are allowing a bigger sell on clause? I’m not that bothered if they are offering to loan him back to us.
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Do people think that the recent glut of youngsters being signed by bigger clubs mean the youth policy has suddenly blossomed, or is it that the standard of the first team players is giving them more chances.
I was thinking the latter at first, but maybe not for three to come through at once.
Or maybe just a cyclical thing, like Delap, Jansen etc.


Delap Jansen etc. actually made quite a few appearances for us I believe
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Do people think that the recent glut of youngsters being signed by bigger clubs mean the youth policy has suddenly blossomed, or is it that the standard of the first team players is giving them more chances.
I was thinking the latter at first, but maybe not for three to come through at once.
Or maybe just a cyclical thing, like Delap, Jansen etc.


Delap Jansen etc. actually made quite a few appearances for us I believe

Yes, they did, but they came through as I group if I recall (with Tony Hopper and Caig).
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I think we do have a good crop of youngsters coming through. It helps them get a game as the standard of senior professionals is low, on the other hand it's more difficult playing in a struggling team. I can't think of many 17 year olds who have played regularly from the start for Carlisle, Jansen and Delap were older when they came through.
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Just so happens my bro-in-law is the chief Everton reporter for the Liverpool Echo. I’ve messages him.



Phil Kirkbride?


Yep, the one and only
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Phil Kirkbride?


Yep, the one and only

The Athletic journalists seem to be the ones in the know these days.
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The club have been very lucky with these young players , two years ago Mcarron was playing for upperby, branthwaite for abbeytown and maybe only 3-5 years ago birch and Galloway were playing for Warwick wanderers . The club lost the best player they had to Newcastle but I’m not sure if we get any money from him ? Watched all the Carlisle lads play regularly as they were same year as my son , brilliant to see them all and it’s down to hard work and determination, Mcarrons dad used to drive him here from Appleby way every training and game so he was playing at a decent level .fair play like
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There’s a 17 year old defender playing for Hamilton Academical called Jamie Hamilton that is of interest to a couple of EPL clubs They want £1.5 million
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ye just seen that taffy/makes us look stupid prob first bid accepted.i hope not.
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They might want 1.5 milllion, that doesn't mean they will recieve it.

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Barnsley got £3 million for John Stones and a 15% sell on off Everton which netted them £6.7 million from his move to City I think he was more like 19 years old at the time
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And Branthwaite is better than John Stones.
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John Stones isn't fit to lace Jarrad Branthwaite's boots.

Another hamstring injury apparently....
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If he was treat with the respect he deserved from our director of football Mccaron would of stayed for another 12 months
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If he was treat with the respect he deserved from our director of football Mccaron would of stayed for another 12 months

What makes you say that CUFC?
Seemed to me the club were trying to get him out of the door to generate money, especially with the contract offer they gave him, so you could be right, but suspct he was all for going.
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John Stones was playing championship football prior to his move so was always going to command a bigger fee - not really a good comparison.

Ampadu had already been called up by his country by the time he moved to Chelsea, a country who were European Championship semi-finalists less than a year earlier.

Probably the closest comparison to Branthwaite would be Ben Wilmot who went from Stevenage to Watford 18 months ago. 18 year old centre-half who had made about a dozen appearances for a league two club (he had been called up by England u19’s though). Depending on which media outlet you believe he went from somewhere between £1m and £1.5m.
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Nixon has probably agreed a silly basement figure for Branthwaite from Everton and even if any higher bids come in he will say it was a 'gentlemans agrement' to let him go to Everton.
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Nixon will have very little, if anything, to do with any deal...
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The deal looks inevitable now, left out of today’s team and squad, albeit he has traveled with the team to Walsall.
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My main priority is not going down. Going down under this ownership would be the beginning of the end of us imo.

If we accept a pittance but get him back on loan it will give us a better chance of surviving this season despite Pressley’s mess.

So in the short term I’d probably take a lower fee and a loan rather than more money and no loan back. Would still be pissed off though if we sold another young player for less than he’s worth.
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Jarrod Branthwaite better than John stones ???
I appreciate your wearing your Carlisle goggles but John stones is an England international trying to get a regular place in probably the 4th or 5 th best club in the world and your saying Jarrod is better.......

Why did city not buy him then ??
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Also Jarrod playing against Grimsby, Cheltenham, Crewe, Salford

Stones plays against , Spurs ( kane) Arsenal ( Aubameyang), Leicester ( vardy) Liverpool ( Salah)

Serious thought on that comment about Jarrod being better than stones
Serious eye roll .
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I have a bad feeling thatthe bod are just trying to get cash up front as quickly as possible and are not even interested in a sell on fee as they will probably be gone by then.
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Didn't they have to put £100k in each recently? I bet that made them splutter. Nixon will be desperate for his money back.
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I have a bad feeling thatthe bod are just trying to get cash up front as quickly as possible and are not even interested in a sell on fee as they will probably be gone by then.

Why would you want less money for him Urban so he can play for four months? Should be safe this season, so seems an odd thing to say.
Team needs a major rejig, so hopefuy some of the money could be used.
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Didn't they have to put £100k in each recently? I bet that made them splutter. Nixon will be desperate for his money back.


If i remember right Nixon put in 90k,no mention of Patty putting anything in.
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If he was treat with the respect he deserved from our director of football Mccaron would of stayed for another 12 months

What makes you say that CUFC?
Seemed to me the club were trying to get him out of the door to generate money, especially with the contract offer they gave him, so you could be right, but suspct he was all for going.


Comical contract offer.

Asked not to attend pre season... forced out the door for the ££!

He’d of likely left but maybe not at that point
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A little frustrating for me is you get a crop of youngsters coming through together .You hope to at least see them play together at your club.The last crop -- Potts,Dempsey, Brough,Beck, Symington ,even Gillespy could be thrown in all played a fair few games. The recent crop we have hardly seen ,even though we have completely built the squad again two years running.
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A little frustrating for me is you get a crop of youngsters coming through together .You hope to at least see them play together at your club.The last crop -- Potts,Dempsey, Brough,Beck, Symington ,even Gillespy could be thrown in all played a fair few games. The recent crop we have hardly seen ,even though we have completely built the squad again two years running.


All mostly labelled 'Sh*t' by a lot of fans when in our team. Potts used to get a hell of a lot of stick.
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Article in todays mail featuring all 20 prem clubs saying what they need and who they like,Everton,Man city and Arsenal were all said to like Jarrad.
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He was looking round Everton before the Walsall game I’ve been told
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If we don’t get a loan back in this deal then questions will have to be asked about the clubs desire to be a football league club. He’s been our best defender this season, so to just let him go mid season while our football league status is at risk would be stupidity imo.

Hopefully the rumours of a loan back are true.
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Think G Jones has been our best defender - but Branthwaite has looked fairly comfortable. He’s made a couple of errors but they’ve just not cost us goals so hasn’t been highlighted like Webster et al.

Agree though, if he isn’t loaned back as part of the deal, it’s piss poor
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Sky sports reporter just eluded to the move to Everton happening after the game for £750k as covering the third goal
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That’s pathetic he’s worth so much more. 2 million at least.
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If you think we’ll only get £750k don’t worry.

That will be the initial up front right now amount. Then likely similar again either in Summer or in instalments.

Be very surprised if various appearance and international related clauses aren’t included too.

Chuck in a sell-on of say 20/25% and potential loan back too.

Full deal will be worth plenty more than £750k...
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I'd gladly take less than £1m and a good sell on, rather than £3m with no sell on.
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More lies from the bod saying he had picked up a 'niggle' in training.

Pathetic taking the first bid and not even getting £1m which is chicken feed for Everton. Only got Cardiff tickets to see him play - wish I hadn't now.
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More lies from the bod saying he had picked up a 'niggle' in training.

Pathetic taking the first bid and not even getting £1m which is chicken feed for Everton. Only got Cardiff tickets to see him play - wish I hadn't now.


You talk some nonsense at times fella!

The lad has a knock. Folk asked him at Walsall. And we’ll be getting more than any £1m...
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