You are not immune if you get the vaccine last i read . I will ask tomorrow when i get it .

I think you’re right, immune wasn’t the right word, but you’re supposed to develop antibodies so you can fight it easily and at worst only develop mild symptoms.

If that doesn’t happen what the point of it?

But the question remains, if you’ve had the vaccine and waited the full time after your second dose, would it bother you if you sat next to someone that possibly didn’t have it.

You read so much stuff that you don't know what to believe or not, my take on it is that if you get the vaccine you can still catch it but you are less likely to die from it and you can still pass it on.

We all know what many of the older folk will do who have had the injection, trot about their pre-covid lifestyle habits thinking that they are invincible and 'it'll be alright now' as just like that bloke who gave my mates pie away in the shop, old people do not listen and they will be itching to get all those spring jobs done swarming round the shops infecting everyone - at least you will be able to spot them all in their thread bare clothing that they have been unable to replace now that The Edinburgh Woolen Mill is shut, you think that I am kidding, look at human nature, if you think that you are not going to get killed you are more likely to take a 'risk'.

Would you feel more comfortable Munch going back to BP, un social distanced, knowing everyone else has been vaccinated.

It’s not a trick question or catch you out question because the majority of the public think these vax passports are good and to restrict access to those that can’t/won’t take it.

I’m intrigued to know if it’s correct most people feel like that as it’s reported as high as 80% want them and why you’d feel more comfortable even though you’ve had the vaccine.

Its as munchy says . And as for afterwards social distancing as per the advice of the time for me

Once the top 9 cohorts are vaccinated come mid April things will improve. So by early May the vulnerable and elderly (were 99% of the deaths arise) will be as safe as they can be and things will seem a lot better.

There will be a spike in infections once the schools go back but it shouldn’t lead to a vast number of hospital admissions and deaths hopefully.

Things are on the up despite what some of the gloom mongers on here say!

Would you feel more comfortable Munch going back to BP, un social distanced, knowing everyone else has been vaccinated.

It’s not a trick question or catch you out question because the majority of the public think these vax passports are good and to restrict access to those that can’t/won’t take it.

I’m intrigued to know if it’s correct most people feel like that as it’s reported as high as 80% want them and why you’d feel more comfortable even though you’ve had the vaccine.

How do pal, I hope that you are well and that your health is keeping up, I wont be changing my currently enforced hermit style existence until I have had the jab that is for sure, a bit like driving where everyone else is potentially lethal if you come into contact with them, a paranoid nature could save you in these current times.

I still wouldn't relax after the jab even for a long while until it all calms down a bit as even if it doesn't kill you I could potentially still kill others, even if I didn't I still wouldn't want to be at deaths door for a month through sheer carelessness.

The amount of hospital appointments I have deferred was getting to be a strain, thing is I need to make these appointments but even less I need covid, in my experience the waiting time for appointments is exceptional at the moment as you can virtually pick and choose for quite a few varied specialists, I am aware of the system where if you miss/cancel the second in some cases but usually the third appointment then you need to go back to your doctor/specialist to get back onto the system - so the Cumberland Infirmary have devised this list that I refer to as the 'naughty' list that I am on for some appointments where you are sort of in limbo without an appointment but as soon as you ring them up then you can choose another instead of being kicked out of the loop, they said that the list is massive - bit of a gamble as you can imagine but stepping foot in covid central doesn't appeal, one of the last times I went the amount of folk ignoring the rules in such a dangerous place was sickening.

All year I have fancied just nipping into that Polish shop on Tait Street to stock up on goodies, still could as you could say that you were stocking up on essentials but one look at the gangs of lads hanging around in and around of the shop and on that corner with no masks on and you could be served up death on a plate, no thanks.

Strange that this current situation suits some, one of my mates is a right miserable sod who doesn't really like people and has a dislike for kids especially, he is currently cock a hoop in his Utopia of gloom, usually rudely interrupted by me temporarily to see if he is alright - I reckon if he put his thoughts to paper he would rival Roald Dahl in nature, for him when the lockdown finishes it will be the end of the happy times.

I’m fine thanks munch

The waiting times for appointments is going to be horrendous going forward, even in Carlisle and it’s one of the better.

There’s those understandably that are worried and won’t go out but also a lot cancelled or over the phone which isn’t viable going forward.

Going to be interesting how they deal with the huge backlog.

I had mine over the phone which was fine and worked better as it was a checkup but I was having eye issues and haven’t had that appointment yet, the face to face and tests seem to be an issue.

I’m fine thanks munch

The waiting times for appointments is going to be horrendous going forward, even in Carlisle and it’s one of the better.

There’s those understandably that are worried and won’t go out but also a lot cancelled or over the phone which isn’t viable going forward.

Going to be interesting how they deal with the huge backlog.

I had mine over the phone which was fine and worked better as it was a checkup but I was having eye issues and haven’t had that appointment yet, the face to face and tests seem to be an issue.

Good stuff pal glad to hear it.

I am making all the appointments that I deem necessary, as in the ones that if I miss then the consequences could be irreversible - they are all important but the list is a great idea of theirs so as it suits them as they are not having people cry off at the last minute and wasting their own time and the GP's whilst they are understanding people's unwillingness to visit hospital, I agree with you though that if the virus were not here right now then the NHS would face a gulf of patients like they have never seen before ever and that is where the problems and deaths will rack up further down the line so they need to prepare for this now and not pretend that they did not see it coming.

Sleep, sleep and then sleep some more does the trick for me pal with the eyesight issues, presumably if it is what I think it is - getting over feeling that you are just being lazy I found a hard obstacle to overcome mentally.

I personally find the condition a bit like a footballer who's legs have gone, you train and work all of your life to get good at something then one day it's all up there in your head but your body prohibits you from doing it any more only with tons more issues and worries on top.

The dark days only become light when you let them.

Good to hear - I wish I could sleep.

I think we’ve been lucky here as appointments have still been going in one way or another.

Friends down south not so lucky.