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I wouldn’t mind if we’d got beat by decent sides but Cambridge and Oldham are very very average.
  1. 12-09-2020 17:04
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Dreadful start, reminiscent of the season Abbott got sacked when we were shipping 3, 4 or 5 every game.

There’ll be a bit of post match motivational bullshit in the dressing room but every player on that bus home will be privately thinking that he’s part of a crap group of players with a crap manager.
  1. 12-09-2020 17:04
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Carlisle need and deserve an experienced Manager not an ass-istant

If we don’t beat Southend then we are in some serious trouble but surely we get a win next week

Can’t wait for the bullshit beech spouts after this game.
  1. 12-09-2020 17:08
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Doesn’t look good from last three games,

Think by November we could be looking for a new manager if today’s performance is anything to go by.
  1. 12-09-2020 17:16
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We'll be down by November if we ship three every game. It would take an Atkins or a Simmo type of revival to claw the deficit back. Even though we fell short in the end under Simmo.

Nice little non-league club. ;)
  1. 12-09-2020 17:26
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You can't really scrap your whole team every season and expect a new team to click straight away but there are worrying signs about the abilities of some of the signings. We've probably got the best looking forward line we've had for some time but if you don't have anyone capable of creating the chances for them then they are being wasted especially Toure who has obvious talent.
  1. 12-09-2020 17:32
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Surely Even the three muppets that are our BoD Must realise that Holdsworth is a wage wasted.
  1. 12-09-2020 17:37
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That was probably as deluded an interview as I have heard from a manager.
‘We had 19 shots at goal‘, actually mate, we only had one on target.
Everyone has mentioned the lack of creativity in midfield, he said how creative we were.
‘We had 8 corners’‘- but we did nothing with them!!
We had 57% of play’ - so what, we lost 3-0, didn’t you notice.
Bottom line, it is the fault of there being no ball boys getting the ball back into Play quickly.
The guy is a moron.
  1. 12-09-2020 18:10
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There is some good news tonight-Branthwaite is in Chris Sutton’s fantasy team.

19 attempts on goal away from home is a good platform-despite the result.
  1. 12-09-2020 18:15
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I’m not sure what counts as an attempt because I’m struggling to remember them!
  1. 12-09-2020 18:18
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I got the same feeling today as I had with the Oldham game that the home side after taking an easy two goal lead, sat back to protect that lead. Then later on when they realised that they we didn't have much to offer, they became a bit more adventurous and hey presto got a third.

In that sense the possession stats, corner stats etc. are largely meaningless.

God help us if and when we're up against a team that decides to keep the proverbial foot on the gas for the full ninety minutes.
  1. 12-09-2020 18:28
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19 "attempts" on goal and the Cambridge keeper barely had to make a save.

Our "attempts" were snatched, panicked, shots - mostly from long range, blocked with barely any effort by the Cambridge defence.

This is, by no definition, a "good platform". Cock-rot.
  1. 12-09-2020 18:29
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I doubt Cambridge will even bother putting the goalkeeper kit in the wash.
  1. 12-09-2020 18:53
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Give the bloke a bit of time FFS.
  1. 12-09-2020 18:56
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Not looking good when Brian Potter scored their third.
  1. 12-09-2020 18:58
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Give the bloke a bit of time FFS.


Where’s your smiley happiness gone? Has the buzz from todays result wore off already?
  1. 12-09-2020 18:58
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There is some good news tonight-Branthwaite is in Chris Sutton’s fantasy team.


One of the more unusual transfer add ons I’ve heard, but got to give the board credit for their hindsight for slipping that one in the deal
  1. 12-09-2020 19:08
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It seems the long summer and lockdown hasn’t improved Pig’s grammar or demeanour.

One league game in and the knitting is out, waiting for a head to roll.Its absolutely pathetic but nonetheless gives me the opportunity to dust off those old planning applications to turn BP into a housing estate like the one on stilts in Hong Kong harbour.

The stats say 19 attempts on goal-that tells me the team can create chances but can’t take them.They had 5 chances and scored 3.

I would give Beech 6 league games then see where we are.
  1. 12-09-2020 19:13
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There is some good news tonight-Branthwaite is in Chris Sutton’s fantasy team.


One of the more unusual transfer add ons I’ve heard, but got to give the board credit for their hindsight for slipping that one in the deal


:D
  1. 12-09-2020 19:20
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Honesty Laffy, they weren’t chances apart from a back pass by us to their ‘keeper. Midfield is awful. Defence and our ‘keeper awful, Hayden wasn’t perfect but held it together at times, quite stylish at other times.
  1. 12-09-2020 19:21
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First time for me watching the side this season and not always easy to get the whole picture from the telly.
I was struck by a hesitancy and nervousness there was across the side and particularly between the centre halves and the keeper. Some poor, simple balls were played by players all across the pitch of decent ability. No surprise really given the newness of the team but it does have a bit of a thrown together look to it at the moment and I got a sense of anxiousness there a little bit – you can really see this with Anderton.
The communication across the back line didn’t look great either as highlighted by the first goal. I feel for Beech because I’m not really sure he can take the blame for such schoolboy mistakes. We’re conceding goals the opposition are having to work hard to score.
MacDonald at centre half and the keeper haven’t started that well and MacDonald at the moment doesn’t look mobile enough. As with Mellish, Parkes and Liddle you wonder if perhaps he’s better in a 3 at the back?
I feel for Jon Mellish. He’s young and is learning and as a centre half is not used to playing midfield so it’s a big jump up learning to play a different role.
I thought Elliot Watt bailed us out a bit last year with his passing and his superb set piece delivery and we really missed him today. Set pieces were poor and we did lack a bit of guile from midfield to set up the forwards.
Beech was right with the attempts but they were snatched, blocked and half chances often because the balls were more hopeful when delivered in – no incisive balls splitting defenders.
Toure looks decent – very confident, isn’t he and nearly scored a belter. Good to see Kayode and Patrick back but they clearly lack match fitness.
I liked the look of the new signing from Preston. No disrespect to Connor Simpson but Walker looked ready for it and looks like he’ll be a handful.
It’s very, very early and there are good, promising signs. If Hayden’s out for a while that’s a blow. Hopefully the defence will bed in and cut out the stupid mistakes. The midfield needs a player or two who can get their head up and pick a pass or slide a ball through.
Can’t help feeling that a loan player from a league above like Callum O’Hare and Jamie Devitt added to that midfield and it looks a lot healthier. Mike Jones and\or Luke Joyce would have helped too.
Once they’re all fit and gotten used to playing with one another you can see some promise there despite the poor start. It will take some time given that Mellish is the longest serving player. It was a worry the performance today and the balance isn’t right just yet but it’s so early in the season. It’s basically a new team and it will take some time.
  1. 12-09-2020 19:23
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It seems the long summer and lockdown hasn’t improved Pig’s grammar or demeanour.

One league game in and the knitting is out, waiting for a head to roll.Its absolutely pathetic but nonetheless gives me the opportunity to dust off those old planning applications to turn BP into a housing estate like the one on stilts in Hong Kong harbour.

The stats say 19 attempts on goal-that tells me the team can create chances but can’t take them.They had 5 chances and scored 3.

I would give Beech 6 league games then see where we are.


It's all me me me with you :)
  1. 12-09-2020 19:25
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It doesn't matter how many chances we create, if we concede an average of three goals a game we'll be relegated.

I'd be happier if we'd created no chances but had eked out a 0-0 draw.
  1. 12-09-2020 19:26
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Beech needs an experienced no.2 alongside him like Simpson had Booth. At present we have 2 assistants in charge, Surely this should have been evident when Beech was appointed. If the plan was to stick with Skelton as no.2 then Beech should not have been appointed.
If as it looks likely Beech will fail then surely Holdsworth must go with him.
Beech's record last season was not much better than Pressley's
He appears to have assembled a bunch of crocks and castoffs who in spite of all the bullshit from Beech & Holdsworth arent fit enough or good enough for the rough & tumble of L2.
  1. 12-09-2020 20:02
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Beech and Skelton both out of there depths in my opinion, Carlisle should look at someone like Keith hill but maybe he wants too much
  1. 12-09-2020 20:22
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The stats may have found 19 'shots' but there is absolutely no way there was 19 chances in all that.
  1. 12-09-2020 20:26
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How can defending Beech and the team, after one match, be me, me, me?Some people on here want to get a sense of humour and a bit of perspective.I didn’t watch the game-but I read the stats.58pc possession and 19 shots-on another day, it would have been more than acceptable and the comparisons with Pressley are irrelevant-he’s gone, he’s not coming back.

Beech is at BP to take the club back to producing players that can be developed and traded on.I think producing a promotion winning team is probably down about 3 or 4 in the list of priorities.
  1. 12-09-2020 20:42
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This 19 shots thing is nonsense. We had one decent effort in the whole game when Toure was tearing them apart, cut in from the left and nearly curled a shot into the top corner. Then Beech inexplicably moved him to the right hand side...
  1. 12-09-2020 20:53
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If he’s not in the job to get promotion we might as well all pack up and go home.
  1. 12-09-2020 20:54
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To be fair to Sir Lapp, he has a long standing tradition in that he always goes round to Bruno Brookes’s gaff every year on the second Saturday of September for a game of draughts and a platter of bangers and mash.

So please don’t have a go at him for glancing at the stats on the bbc page then chiming in with his match analysis.

Some on here seem to be forgetting he’s got about a million quid in the bank and that he once had a go at buying the club. Show some respect pls :(
  1. 12-09-2020 21:03
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It's not unreasonable to be unhappy with today's performance. You say you didn't watch the game - fair enough. That certainly doesn't make your opinion invalid but I can really assure you that whatever image '19 shots' is conjuring up in your mind, it's bollocks. We looked creativity sterile and never really looked like scoring.
This was not Cambridge with their backs to the wall whilst shots rained down on them - this was Cambridge having the easiest game they'll have all season against a side that offered nothing.
I'm not naturally negative and I'm quite happy to give Beech time but today was rubbish, whatever the stats say.
  1. 12-09-2020 21:05
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19 shots. Have we already got a pandemic of shit playing for us?
  1. 12-09-2020 21:14
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I have to say that was not a 3-0. Yes I know it is about putting the ball in the net, but they basically ripped apart our tactics and shape. Cambridge played like the away team. We looked better on the ball, but terrible off of it. Their goals were from out of nowhere. We got caught out 3 times with very bad defending.

As I said it was not a 3-0 and a game I think with better management and shape we could have come away with all 3 points.

Back to the training ground and get the basics of defending from the front out of the way.

Man of match by far was Toure.

Not all doom and gloom because there was some good stuff on the ball, and it is basically a new team, let hope it clicks into place and gels, but we need to give it a few more games.

On to the next.
  1. 12-09-2020 23:07
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Well I watched it.

I didn’t realise we had as many as 19 shots, they never troubled the goalkeeper at all. They were mostly long range hit and hopes and miles off - this is one of them times when the statistics don’t really relate.

As soon as Norman’s fit, I’d put him straight in for Farman. To be fair he doesn’t do much wrong but doesn’t do much right either and doesn’t fill me with confidence at all.

McDonald is so so slow, he looks dreadful in the two games I’ve seen.
Mellish in midfield never in a million years.
Agree with Toure he looked lively, Kayode looked unfit and Patrick miles off. Alessandra is a waste of time.

Overall really poor, but I still think there’s better players here than last season if we get them playing well. At the moment they look to similar ok technically but no organisation commitment etc etc,

Laffy is right though Beech was brought in to develop young players and make money, just look at the clubs statement when they appointed him. Problem is that doth butter no parsnips with supporters and will easily get sick of that approach. In tin pot two the aim should be promotion every time but for us it isn’t, it’s to try to get money and it’ll end in disaster. When Beech gets the sack in a few weeks Holdsworth should go as well as he is totally inept but he won’t, instead he will get a Bridges etc to take the pressure off.

We will win next week though, we should be greatful it’s on really as I’m not convinced it won’t be suspended or abandoned again.
  1. 12-09-2020 23:30
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Welcome to the forum Chris!
  1. 13-09-2020 16:11
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What was Hayden’s injury? If he’s out long term we’re buggered!
  1. 13-09-2020 07:27
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He walked off the pitch but looked to be limping, also he told the physio he needed to be subbed straight away.

From the way he was limping it looked like a hamstring, but I could be wrong.
  1. 13-09-2020 08:08
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I agree Broadly with Mullen’s summation.

Laffy - it’s not about possession, it’s about what you do with it. Passing was poor. Crossing was poor, dead-balls were poor. There was an air of panic at the back especially after Hayden went off. Funnily I do remember quite a few attempts but they were mostly hurried shots because of few options and with a defender a yard away. It was poor fare; one of those where you think that you could play all day and never score.
  1. 13-09-2020 08:27
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Beech suggested that Hayden was a head injury and he came off due to dizziness.
  1. 13-09-2020 08:33
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It definitely fixable problems, if we drew 0-0 we would’ve been gutted not win that but we concede 3 cheap goals. There plenty of good players out there who don’t have a club but I can’t see Beech making many more signings as he obviously feels that his main signings have to succeed. Pearce ex Mansfield or Martin ex Exeter would bring great experience to a young back line but those are just fantasies. Paul green may be 37 but he could bring experience to our squad. I think we’re only 3 players off turning this around. Let’s hope the Adam Colin curse doesn’t happen to us!
  1. 13-09-2020 10:57
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Another three?

He's had 18 new players in since January who are still at the club.
  1. 13-09-2020 11:06
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Another three?

He's had 18 new players in since January who are still at the club.

Are you saying we don’t need more experience because a pub team has better organisation at the back than what we’ve got, we need a leader back there. TBF to webster he was at least vocal and could organise
  1. 13-09-2020 11:20
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In his interview he also banged on about their centre halves using the dark arts against us and suggesting it wasn’t fair.
Which centre half doesn’t do that when he can get away with it.
He should have been telling ours to give it back, not moan about the opposition doing what every team anywhere will do. Jesus.
It’s just not cricket chaps!!!
  1. 13-09-2020 11:20
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Another three?

He's had 18 new players in since January who are still at the club.

Are you saying we don’t need more experience because a pub team has better organisation at the back than what we’ve got, we need a leader back there. TBF to webster he was at least vocal and could organise


Is he possibly saying he hasn’t done very well with the 18 he’s brought in if we already need another 3?
  1. 13-09-2020 11:23
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Another three?

He's had 18 new players in since January who are still at the club.

Are you saying we don’t need more experience because a pub team has better organisation at the back than what we’ve got, we need a leader back there. TBF to webster he was at least vocal and could organise


Is he possibly saying he hasn’t done very well with the 18 he’s brought in if we already need another 3?

I think we’re crying out for an organiser at the back, Concrete rod has obviously not quite set yet and has admitted himself that when he had good seasons it was next to experienced centre halves. We all know when our two centre backs go for the same ball it’s not a good sign.
  1. 13-09-2020 11:27
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Another three?

He's had 18 new players in since January who are still at the club.

Are you saying we don’t need more experience because a pub team has better organisation at the back than what we’ve got, we need a leader back there. TBF to webster he was at least vocal and could organise


Is he possibly saying he hasn’t done very well with the 18 he’s brought in if we already need another 3?

I think we’re crying out for an organiser at the back, Concrete rod has obviously not quite set yet and has admitted himself that when he had good seasons it was next to experienced centre halves. We all know when our two centre backs go for the same ball it’s not a good sign.


This not just at the back but midfield as well. The back bone. There is no doubt we can knock the ball around pretty well, but without it we need to break up the play and get it back. If it gets to the box someone who can snuff out the danger and put it in row z ASAP.
  1. 13-09-2020 16:08
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At first I thought he picked up the nickname Concrete Rod as he was like an old school tough centre-back but it maybe because he runs like legs are made of Concrete.
  1. 13-09-2020 16:11
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Another three?

He's had 18 new players in since January who are still at the club.

Are you saying we don’t need more experience because a pub team has better organisation at the back than what we’ve got, we need a leader back there. TBF to webster he was at least vocal and could organise


:D
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